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Taking A Long(ish) Trip

cruising_spud
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Explorer
Taking A Long(ish) Trip

Although I have read oodles of rv.net posts over the past years, I can’t recall ever having read much about readying yourself for a long road trip. My husband, youngest daughter, and I have taken a few three week trips, but due to job/time constraints, I super planned these vacations. And, we always stuck to the plan.

And then….we retired. And, since our youngest daughter is still living at home and could thus, “run the show” (fingers crossed), we decided to plan a trip. Out West. Thinking to be on the road for eight to twelve weeks. Go us!!!!!

Now that we are almost home, I thought it might be advantageous for some future travelers to post the lessons I learned, while both planning and traveling, thinking others could chime in and add their own “trip tips.”

Prelude : we left the East coast July 21, 2018. We headed out West. Traveling through, to name a few states-South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Oklahoma, Ohio, and finally, back home. I had reservations for Custer State Park, Glacier, Olympic, Crater Lake, Redwoods, and Yosemite, as well as a few rv parks between Redwoods and Yosemite. Also, a few rental cars thrown in, since we don’t tow. In addition, I spent quite a bit of pre-trip time creating a “trip planner.” Okay, a fancy name for writing stuff down in a notebook. In the planner I broke the trip into segments, such as #1-home to Custer, #2-Custer to Glacier. Within each section I estimated how long we would travel in one day, and the names, addresses, costs, and phone numbers of two or three possible campgrounds we could stay at each evening. We did not have a specific budget.

We were ready.

Lesson one : traveling is not cheap. The cost of gas is a killer. Prices are all over the places. What we discovered-Costco and Safeway (a grocery store that, in many states, sold gas) had the best prices for gas. You need a Costco membership to pump Costco gas, but anyone can use Safeway. I also downloaded Gas Buddy, an app that was a bit of a help locating cheaper gas prices.

Lesson two : get a vpn (virtual protection network that encrypts your computer info so no one can hack into your computer). About a month before our trip, I researched vpns and bought protection for three years (cheapest way to go, for about $3.50 a month). The stay-at- home, hopefully responsible daughter, texted when a bill arrived, and I paid on-line. Easy peasy.

Lesson three: have a cell phone with a gps app, and two different maps (we had maps from AAA and a RandMcNally book of maps, and at times, one had info the other did not). We also had the book, Next Exit.

Lesson four : rvpark reviews is your friend.

Lesson five : know the cancellation policies of the campground and car rental agencies you reserve. Two weeks into our trip we decided to cancel, due to the massive fires, our Yosemite reservations and shorten our reservation at Redwoods. This then led to a flurry of calls to cancel/reschedule campgrounds and car rentals. We were lucky. Most places didn’t charge us a cancellation fee. And, although I reserved the state and national parks because they fill up quickly, don’t overdue the reservations for run of the mill, overnight stops. Because plans can change. And, not saying we weren’t a bit lucky, but we never had a problem getting a site for the night.

Lesson six : if you are like us, and one partner (in our case, my husband) does all of the driving, then know his/her daily limitations. And, keep in mind, you tend to travel more slowly in an rv than in a car. Consider that when looking at Mapquest. Plus, take a few days throughout the trip and relax. Sleep in, clean up, take a walk.

Lesson seven : plan on time for stopping at grocery stores. When you go into a grocery store, sign up for their rewards card (it takes all of sixty seconds), so that you can take advantage of their sales. If you’re up to it, cook and freeze a few meals before you leave home.

Lesson eight : if the cost of the trip is at all in issue, estimate travel costs before you go. And, try to think about your lifestyle when considering campgrounds-do you want cable tv, wifi, do you feel okay staying at a Walmart parking lot for an overnight? What about a laundry for washing your clothes?

Lesson nine: if you are traveling with another person, make sure you like him/her enough to travel with. After a long day of driving, hiking, etc watch what you say and how you say it. Bring wine. Be kind.

Lesson ten : if you get bothered by constantly dirty windshields and a dirty rv front, bring a bucket, car wash soap, a rag and a towel, glass cleaner, a short ladder, and a long handle squeegee type thing to wash your rv.

Lesson eleven : before you go, make sure your rv is serviced and ready to go

Our trip is wrapping up after five weeks on the road. The ten to twelve weeks didn’t materialize. A few cancellations, a few shortening of trips thrown in, with a touch of “starting to miss home.” No problem. We are retired and can always do more later.

We had a fabulous time.
Kathy
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cruising_spud
Explorer
Explorer
pasusan,

The fires did cut our trip short, but that's fine. You know, without our rv, we never would have gotten to see all of the things that we did. What a beautiful country we have.
Kathy

cruising_spud
Explorer
Explorer
Matt,

We, too, spent some time with analyzing gas prices. You are right-sometimes a savings isn't really a savings.
Kathy

cruising_spud
Explorer
Explorer
theoldwizard1,

You are right about stopping for misc items. We did that several times during our trip. Once-our locking gas cap broke. Luckily, my husband had the original, but he did spent a bit of time looking for another locking one.
Kathy

theoldwizard1
Explorer II
Explorer II
Besides grocery shopping, on a long trip you will need to pick up various "other supplies" from home centers, hardware stores or auto parts stores. Try to be flexible in your arrival times because you can easily loose an hour or two with just one stop.

If you are like me, I always travel with a well stocked tool box and things to handle emergency repairs (stainless steel hose clamps, "bailing" wire, zip ties, hookup wire, heat shrink, duct tape, 5 minute epoxy, grease/lubricants, paper towel/rags)

Very long trips will likely require scheduled maintenance (oil change, etc).

johnhicks
Explorer
Explorer
Next time SLOW DOWN.

You've done the frantic thing; for the next trip select a destination area and stay there for a couple of weeks or a month. Usually the monthly rate at a CG is by far the lowest per-day. Also if either of you is 62+ you can get the discount card for haf-price stays at COE and many NF parks.

Then move on to another destination area. You'll save a lot of gas if you only move every couple of weeks or so.

Don't bust your butts trying to drive a bazillion miles. That just makes it a real chore rather than fun.

Stop relying on phone gps apps and get a real rv or trucker gps. You'll know I'm right when your phone app takes down a one-half-lane farm-to-market road or 20 miles down a narrow shoulderless road to a clearance you can't fit under.

Unless you're traveling in a van you really should consider a toad. A toad makes it tremendously easier to sightsee, get groceries, do laundry etc. rather than have to take your rv to do all that.
-jbh-

Matt_Colie
Explorer II
Explorer II
From one of our recent long travel excursions:

A word about fuel shopping. Being a couple of kinds of engineer, I analyze everything I can (boring, isn't he?). While on the road with DW at the wheel, I was looking ahead for fuel. (GasBuddy does this real well on a computer with internet, the phone app, not well.) We are still running SA2015 and it tells where 1/4 tank should be so I start looking there (and a state borders that are known to cause price changers). This is where the computer version shines, click the box in the corner to go to full screen and with SA to feed you Zipcodes it is real easy.

In one place I found fuel for 0.10$ less, but it was 10 miles off the route. That started a stream of thoughts that I shall relate here.

If you think about it an undue length, that 10 miles is more than a gallon for man of us. You will have to replace that gallon. Then, when you get back to you planned route, you have also burned a gallon more and that just decreased the distance to the next fuel stop by that gallon.

Short version: If you have to go out of sight of the route to save money on fuel, it is probably not worth doing.

Now, Costco, Sam's Club and Kroger all deserve their own analysis, because they can work. Even still that 0.30$ a gallon can be a looser if it is too far off your planned track.

Amazing what you can do with a spreadsheet while the DW is driving.

Matt
Matt & Mary Colie
A sailor, his bride and their black dogs (one dear dog is waiting for us at the bridge) going to see some dry places that have Geocaches in a coach made the year we married.

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
Bring your own internet. Banks et al already have secure connections.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

pasusan
Explorer
Explorer
Great list of ideas...

Signing up for grocery store cards is something we wouldn't do. Almost always when asked if we have a rewards card we say "no, we're tourists" and they pull one out and swipe it for us.

I smiled at "Bring wine. Be kind." So true. 🙂

Sorry the fires and smoke cut your trip short.

Susan & Ben [2004 Roadtrek 170]
href="https://sites.google.com/view/pasusan-trips/home" target="_blank">Trip Pics

cruising_spud
Explorer
Explorer
Dave,

I never tried the Good Sam trip planner. Thanks for the info-I'll give it a try.
Kathy

Dave5143
Explorer
Explorer
I use the Good Sam trip planner to plan my routes and stops. It's actually somewhat useful. It will even estimate fuel costs for you. Try it.
I always make reservations, especially for the holiday and special event weekends when the parks are likely to be fully booked. It's one less thing to worry about when on the road. I usually plan to stay at least two nights at each park. That way I have a bit of schedule slack to work with in case I have to shift reservations around. Works for us.
rvparkreviews and VPN are your friends
Dave & Mary

2012 Denali 289RK
Ford F250 Lariat Powerstroke 6.7L Diesel

docsouce
Explorer II
Explorer II
Different points of view are what makes this forum interesting. Always something new or different. The method that works for us is: start early and end early. Keep the daily mileage between 200 and 225 miles. If we unexpectedly find something interesting, or just get the urge to stop, do it, we might never pass this way again. We reserve our camp sites 4 days out. Small state parks if available, however we usually end up in private parks, more expensive yes but knowing we have a spot when the days drive is done seems to free us up. Gas...I fill it when it hits half a tank and try to stick to name brands. We utilize RVparkreviews.com constantly.
2020 JAYCO 26XD
Just right for the two of us!

cruising_spud
Explorer
Explorer
A note about vpns. Although I had heard about vpns and after some research, appreciated what they could do, I was worried that it would prove difficult to install and use one. I was wrong-I paid on line, installed, and then pressed a button on the vpn website to turn it on. Once you connect to any internet (and you can install the vpn on your laptop, tablet, and cell phone- I believe I can secure up to six devices), the vpn pops up on your screen, and you can watch it automatically connect. You are also sent a tutorial and contact information.
Kathy

2gypsies1
Explorer II
Explorer II
We did a 16-year trip!! No reservations and didn't miss home. We were in it!! 🙂
Full-Timed for 16 Years
.... Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 40' 2004 Newmar Dutch Star Motorhome
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

naturist
Nomad
Nomad
A VPN does several things that may or may not be important to someone. They secure your communications with your bank and credit card companies as well as your passwords to sites like Facebook, RVnet, and your email account(s). They also prevent your ISP from tracking your movements across the web (and selling that data), although some VPNs do that too. They will often (but not always) enable you to access web sites that some campground and wifi network owners try to censor.

I've run into that one a couple times. You'd be surprised the nanny/filters on some networks, not just for pornography, but violence and even political discourse. And you'd also be surprised at some of the things those filters sometimes stupidly block. Breast cancer support sites, for example, or professional photographer sites, the former because the word "breast" is invoked, the latter because we all know those pro-photo guys are all perverts.

Having done a bit of traveling over the years, depending on airport, campground, and restaurant wifi networks, I've found a VPN very helpful. YMMV.