Tesla great looking EV cars

[NamMedevac_70]

I park next to the Tesla charge stations at the casinos and observe their great looks.

This is just now MSN breaking news from California

Californians asked to keep AC at 78 and nix electric vehicle charges to spare grid

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/californians-asked-to-keep-ac-at-78-and-nix-electric-vehicle-charges-to-spare-grid/ar-AA11jDFN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a1503e2821444666cbf95e8236c9b26d

Also Newsweek reporting this today.

[dedmiston]

Decisions decisions... What to do?

It's somewhere between 107° and 117° here today depending on whether you believe an app or the car's dash thermometer. The hills are on fire and Edison has been flipping the power off and on all day.

This is the billionth EV vs. ICE thread I've seen this month, and it still doesn't have much to do with RVing.

[time2roll]

bob213 wrote:
The bottom line is if there's not enough electricity to run your air conditioners how are we supposed to charge all the added EV that will be required under this utopian law?

Could get a battery for the A/C and charge during off-peak and discharge for on-peak cooling. Fortunately EVs now come included with a battery to use this feature for driving.

[Reisender]

mike-uswest wrote:

Reisender wrote:

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747

Yah it’s goofy. First the dealer used the wrong part number. New batteries haven’t been available for volts for 5 years so although the number isn’t wrong it’s not the right number.

The correct number is a 9100 dollar reman battery. Which makes sense as why would someone put a new battery in a 12 year old car.

Anyway, GM parts online sells the reman part number battery for 6700 dollars. A couple third party shops have estimated 6 to 8 hours labour.

As well there are batteries from written off bolts for 3500 to 4000 dollars.

And the original battery is probably still good so someone will want to buy it and rebuild it. More than likely a bad cell or a balancing board.

Anyway the 30’000 dollar battery replacement story turned out to be about a quarter or less than that. Great story though.

Most of my cars and trucks I try to keep 15-20 years.

Yah nothing wrong with that. Most EV batteries will outlast the car. No idea what happened to the volt battery but I’m not up on older hybrid batteries. Newer tesla batteries are expected to last between 400,00 to 600,000 kilometres. Lots of old Tesla cabs on the road with north of 400,000 kilometres.

[mike-uswest]

Reisender wrote:

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747

Yah it’s goofy. First the dealer used the wrong part number. New batteries haven’t been available for volts for 5 years so although the number isn’t wrong it’s not the right number.

The correct number is a 9100 dollar reman battery. Which makes sense as why would someone put a new battery in a 12 year old car.

Anyway, GM parts online sells the reman part number battery for 6700 dollars. A couple third party shops have estimated 6 to 8 hours labour.

As well there are batteries from written off bolts for 3500 to 4000 dollars.

And the original battery is probably still good so someone will want to buy it and rebuild it. More than likely a bad cell or a balancing board.

Anyway the 30’000 dollar battery replacement story turned out to be about a quarter or less than that. Great story though.

Most of my cars and trucks I try to keep 15-20 years.

[Grit_dog]

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747

I'm on your team here, but not for long, if like Reisender said, you can't post factual information.
And a car dealer trying to rip off a customer is not a good way to try to prove your point.

That happens every day. Car dealers don't discriminate against ICE drivers, they're equal opportunity ripoff artists...lol

[Grit_dog]

PButler96 wrote:
Here we go again ROFLMAO.....


This ought to be another doozy.

Looking forward to it, should be 10 pages by morning.

Tryna doo my part, bosss....

[Grit_dog]

bob213 wrote:
The bottom line is if there's not enough electricity to run your air conditioners how are we supposed to charge all the added EV that will be required under this utopian law?

Hayyyy, don't think aboot it.
Just put on some clothes that contain the colors of every state you've visited in the little map in your sig and go dance thru a field of flowers knowing that you don't have to actually solve any problems, nor even be concerned about them, because someone blew enough smoke up your skirt to make your forget that things lik emath and physics actually exist....

[bob213]

The bottom line is if there's not enough electricity to run your air conditioners how are we supposed to charge all the added EV that will be required under this utopian law?

[shelbyfv]

Yep and the Bugatti still costs $5 million, same as last week. Stale, unimaginative troll.

[Reisender]

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747

Yah it’s goofy. First the dealer used the wrong part number. New batteries haven’t been available for volts for 5 years so although the number isn’t wrong it’s not the right number.

The correct number is a 9100 dollar reman battery. Which makes sense as why would someone put a new battery in a 12 year old car.

Anyway, GM parts online sells the reman part number battery for 6700 dollars. A couple third party shops have estimated 6 to 8 hours labour.

As well there are batteries from written off bolts for 3500 to 4000 dollars.

And the original battery is probably still good so someone will want to buy it and rebuild it. More than likely a bad cell or a balancing board.

Anyway the 30’000 dollar battery replacement story turned out to be about a quarter or less than that. Great story though.

[PButler96]

Here we go again ROFLMAO.....


This ought to be another doozy.

Looking forward to it, should be 10 pages by morning.

[Grit_dog]

"Annual Energy Outlook 2022 ELECTRICITY DEMAND IN TRANSPORTATION REMAINS LOW
Fully electric vehicles grow from less than 1% of the on-road LDV fleet in 2021 to a little over 7% in 2050 in the Reference case.

Perhaps EVs are not causing the biggest issue for the grid or the EIA is wrong."

Ya gotta keep your story straight if you're pushing your views (I wont say agenda, to be kind).
ONLY 7% of LDVs by 2050 will be electric?

I know the math gets in the way of a good time and a good argument, but I can't make that match up with all the reports and goals by different states that you drool over that say no new ICE LDVs by 2025, 2030, 2035.

So which is it? Will EVs take over in the next few decades or will they continue to be an option for only a small % of car owners, who either want the "green" overpriced status symbol or those who can effectively make use of an electric commuter mobile.

Between the folks on here who believe the world will be saved by EVs and the ones who think you can sit in Death Valley for a week in July in your air conditioned AC sipping a cold martini with a few solar panels and some overpriced batteries to keep you cool and the vodka chilled, I'm a bit embarrassed for some of y'alls levels of comprehension.

[NamMedevac_70]

I just ran across this browsing the business news.


$30,000 Replacement battery for a $10,000 EV Volt

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dealership-quotes-30-000-to-replace-battery-in-a-10-000-chevrolet-volt/ar-AA11hHuE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0dbef53ffc6d9573d3b1598778794747

[shelbyfv]

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

And some folks don't even have RVs....