Tesla great looking EV cars

[NamMedevac_70]

I park next to the Tesla charge stations at the casinos and observe their great looks.

This is just now MSN breaking news from California

Californians asked to keep AC at 78 and nix electric vehicle charges to spare grid

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/californians-asked-to-keep-ac-at-78-and-nix-electric-vehicle-charges-to-spare-grid/ar-AA11jDFN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a1503e2821444666cbf95e8236c9b26d

Also Newsweek reporting this today.

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NamMedevac 70 wrote:
Californians asked to keep AC at 78 and nix electric vehicle charges to spare grid

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/californians-asked-to-keep-ac-at-78-and-nix-electric-vehicle-charges-to-spare-grid/ar-AA11jDFN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a1503e2821444666cbf95e8236c9b26d

Also Newsweek reporting this today.

Been asking people to give appliances the afternoon off since at least the 1960s.
Normal and ordinary to have the public reduce usage during the early evening power peak on the hottest days.

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx

[NamMedevac_70]

Here is article about flat towing a Rivian.

https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/battery-charging-while-towing.1142/#post-6595

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valhalla360 wrote:
Are there flat towable EVs? Last I heard, the answer was no but I see no technological reason they couldn't change that.

Supposedly RIVIAN is flat towable. Have yet to read a story of someone actually doing it.

[valhalla360]

BCSnob wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Red herring argument...

So is the EIA wrong?

The 2050 numbers...who knows. I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Give me a dart board & a blindfold and I can probably do just as accurate of a prediction. I do find is suspect if they are assuming 75% or more vehicles will be EV by 2050.

But your argument that only EVs are called out for significant increases in power consumption is the red herring argument.

Wait, I re-read it. They are projecting only 7% of the vehicle fleet as EV by 2050, so if EVs remain a fringe option, yeah, they are probably right.

If EVs actually become a substantial portion of the market, they are dead wrong.

[valhalla360]

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

Are there flat towable EVs? Last I heard, the answer was no but I see no technological reason they couldn't change that.

While not a big deal in terms of the larger EV market, I could see that becoming a popular TOAD option.
- The long runs are covered by the MH diesel dragging it along.
- Short local trips can be supplemented with fast charging or in some cases campground charging (if allowed and the system can handle it). Possibly even a large alternator on the MH could do some supplemental charging though that may be more hassle than it's worth.

Personally I find Teslas to be rather bland looking unless you count the original roadster. Those I kind of like.

[BCSnob]

valhalla360 wrote:

Red herring argument...

So is the EIA wrong?

[NamMedevac_70]

In case you haven't notice Some RVers now tow with EVs and others tow EVs behind Class A, B, & C motor homes.

[valhalla360]

BCSnob wrote:
So why are EV sales the only focus for slowing in increases in power consumption? Shouldn’t we be looking at all large or fast growing power consumption sectors?

Red herring argument...I have seen articles arguing about additional housing development being a problem in some areas.

There is also pressure regarding home sizes pushing for smaller homes.

The fact is a family needs someplace to live, you can't just say "no home for you".

With cars, there are other viable fuel sources, so while we can shift to EVs, doing so in a measured rate makes sense.

[shelbyfv]

Yawn. No RV content here. Grid grid grid, range range range, nasty metals. And don't use the clothes dryer during peak....

[Grit_dog]

Reisender wrote:


Nobody charges an EV at home during daylight hours anyway. Our timer is set for 1 AM. It’s always done by 3 AM. Much cheaper.

Of course not...that's when 'yer (not you in particular) side hustle is bankin benjis for you sellin' electrons back to the power company that you just purchased from them last night!
lol

[BCSnob]

EIA wrote:
ELECTRICITY DEMAND IN TRANSPORTATION REMAINS LOW
We project that demand for electricity grows fastest in the transportation sector, even as consumption in that sector remains less than 3% of economy-wide electricity consumption in the Reference case. Fully electric vehicles grow from less than 1% of the on-road LDV fleet in 2021 to a little over 7% in 2050 in the Reference case. The increase in demand primarily follows evolutionary electric vehicle (EV) technology and market developments, as well as current fuel economy regulations. Both vehicle sales and utilization (miles driven) would need to increase substantially for EVs to raise electric power demand growth rates by more than a fraction of a percentage point per year. The transportation sector’s share of electricity consumption is greatest in the High Oil Price case, where it reaches 5% of the total in 2050.



Link

Perhaps EVs are not causing the biggest issue for the grid or the EIA is wrong.

[Grit_dog]

BCSnob wrote:
Despite the implication it’s not really an issue due to charging EVs; it’s a grid issue highlighted by any additional draw (new houses, greater AC use during higher temps, reduced generation, charging EVs, new Casinos etc). While I read comments about not increasing EV charging I don’t read comments about not adding new houses to the grid.

Huh??

[Lwiddis]

And the power used at 1 a.m. to recharge EVs is nuclear or fossil. Very little water generation these days. Kinda defeats the purpose, Reisender.

[Reisender]

They didn’t ask them not to charge. They asked them not to charge until after 9 PM.

Nobody charges an EV at home during daylight hours anyway. Our timer is set for 1 AM. It’s always done by 3 AM. Much cheaper.

[BCSnob]

So why are EV sales the only focus for slowing in increases in power consumption? Shouldn’t we be looking at all large or fast growing power consumption sectors?