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Carolt
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Jul 21, 2014

Towing question

We just bought a toyota tundra 4WD crew max. It has a GCWR=9,500 lbs. we are new to the rv world, but have been considering buying for a few years now. We are looking at travel trailers. We are considering a Crossroads Zinger ZT27RL wtith a gross weight of 7,850 lbs Or an open range roamer rt288FLR with a gross weight of 9,800 lbs which is a little over the recommended weight. The two of us and two yellow labs will be the primary users, but we expect friends with 1-2 kids to join us on some trips. We are planning to buy new. We have friends to help us with our first few trips until we get acclimated. Besides the price difference, what do we need to consider before we decIde which one?

We appreciate any/all comments. Thanks!
  • The Tundra is an excellent truck, but do not try towing a 9500# RV. You will put the truck well over its payload capacity. I would keep a max loaded trailer of less than 7000# provided the tongue weight does not put you over the trucks GVWR.

    Ken
  • Thanks everyone! The payload is 1305. So I will keep looking
  • We have roughly the same truck (did yours come with a "tow package"?) and have towed 3 trailers with it: a 22' hybrid trailer (I forget the GVWR of the trailer but it was under 6000 lbs, I'm sure), a 34' "light" trailer with a GVWR of 7600 lbs, and our current 27' trailer with a GVWR of 6500 lbs. It did well with all 3, but I will say it seems an awful lot happier with the new trailer than with the big one.

    DO NOT choose the 9800-lb one UNLESS it has a cargo carrying capacity (which will be listed on a sticker either on the outside of the trailer or inside a cupboard somewhere) of AT LEAST 2800 lbs. Seriously. Payload capacity of the Tundra is low compared to other 1/2-ton trucks, and that will limit the tongue weight of the trailer you pull. We travel with just us 2 adults and a 10-lb cat, plus perhaps 250 pounds of stuff in the truck at most (counting the weight of the hitch) and we were right at capacity with our large trailer - in fact, we were a bit overweight for the truck's GVWR. The other trailer you're looking at is about the maximum you should consider with the truck you have, IMO.

    Incidentally, all the negative stuff you will hear about the Tundra as far as weights go is pretty much true. However, you will probably love the truck otherwise. :)
  • You will never get close to safely towing your rated 9,500#. The biggest challenge you face is the serious lack of payload. First of all ignore ALL dry weights, they are a joke and the joke will be on you. Take the tailer's GVWR and figure 13% of that number for a real world tongue weight (+ another 100# for the WDH).

    If you have a trailer with a GVWR of just 6,000# you will have roughly 900# of TW (including the WDH). Take that off of your payload and you are left with a measly 400# for everything that goes into the truck: bodies, dogs, tools, firewood, toys etc. The trailers you mentioned are half again more than that and you will be dangerously overloaded.

    If you just have to have that much trailer you will need a lot more truck (with a lot more payload).

    As always.... Opinions and YMMV.

    :C
  • You probably mean a "tow rating" of #9500... Look at the PAYLOAD sticker on the truck and that's really what you can handle payload wise.. This is probably in the #1200-#1400 range and means that's all the weight you can ADD to the truck which includes additional passengers, stuff in the bed and most important, the tongue weight of the TT you hitch to it...

    Those trailers you mention will likely have at least #800 TW to as much as #1200 once you get it loaded up... "Dry weights" for TT's and comparing that to the "tow rating" of your truck is usually a recipe for being overloaded on the truck... How much that overloads it and what your towing experience is is up to you to determine...

    Most of us "seasoned" RVer's have learned this over the years by experience and more than likely, towing overloaded before and knowing what that's like! ;)

    Good luck!

    Mitch