Oct-06-2023 11:17 AM
Dec-25-2023 11:43 AM
I pull a 40+ horse trailer with living quarters & I take up the whole road when making a tight right turn, even if I have to wait for vehicles to get out of the way. One time I didn’t have enough room to turn & had to have help (6 guys & equipment). Always take more road than you think you need!
Oct-14-2023 10:14 AM
blt2ski wrote:I agree, that would be useful information to know.nickthehunter wrote:
Just to point out one thing, tow ratings on any truck tested to SAEJ2807 standard (which is pretty much all trucks) are not based upon towing a flatbed trailer. The max trailer weight rating of vehicles is partly determined by testing towing trailers with Frontal areas that are a minimum of 40 sft for 5000 lbs trailers up to 75 sft for very large triaxle trailers. You don’t meet the standard for pulling a 5000 lbs trailer with 40 sft frontal area, you don’t get to rate your truck for that max trailer tow weight rating.
Clicky
Ford tells you what the max frontal area limitations for their vehicles are See pg 17
Back in 92, I saw a poster in an RV dealership. It had max tow ratings for Ford.
F250/350 rigs had a max of 10K lbs at the time, same with GM/Dodge. That assumed you had no more than 80sqft of frontal area. 80.1-100 was lowered to 7500, 100.1-120 was lowered yet again to 5000, over 120 was not recommended to be towed by an F series truck.
The Ranger/Aerostar was maxed at 6000 iirc to 60sqft, lowered to 4500 from 60-70, lowered again to 3000 from 70-80, A trailer over 80 sq ft was not recommended being towed by Ford.
ALL the manufactures should be showing the effects, lowering of ratings etc if you go over the base weights, frontal area drag components etc. MANY of US are in actuality, over the ratings!
Marty
Oct-14-2023 08:56 AM
nickthehunter wrote:
Just to point out one thing, tow ratings on any truck tested to SAEJ2807 standard (which is pretty much all trucks) are not based upon towing a flatbed trailer. The max trailer weight rating of vehicles is partly determined by testing towing trailers with Frontal areas that are a minimum of 40 sft for 5000 lbs trailers up to 75 sft for very large triaxle trailers. You don’t meet the standard for pulling a 5000 lbs trailer with 40 sft frontal area, you don’t get to rate your truck for that max trailer tow weight rating.
Clicky
Ford tells you what the max frontal area limitations for their vehicles are See pg 17
Oct-14-2023 07:58 AM
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Oct-13-2023 04:51 AM
BackOfThePack wrote:valhalla360 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I would more concerned with the length and possible excessive weight for a 250/2500 truck. That's a LOT of tail wagging the Dog!!!
Semi-tractor required?
GVWR is only 9k on the trailer he lists...a 3/4 ton should be fine.
Half ton would be fine for a vacationer versus a full-timer. DD duty is always the priority. Power-to-weight favors 1/2T.
Take both to scale and get true weights (loaded for camping trip with pax aboard)
My combined gross stays between 17-18k, both heavily loaded. Empty, both together were just under 14k.
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Oct-12-2023 08:00 PM
valhalla360 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I would more concerned with the length and possible excessive weight for a 250/2500 truck. That's a LOT of tail wagging the Dog!!!
Semi-tractor required?
GVWR is only 9k on the trailer he lists...a 3/4 ton should be fine.
Oct-12-2023 07:47 PM
TCBear wrote:
If your trailer has a long overhang behind the rear axle, your rear bumper's gonna swing out a bit during a sharp turn, so you may need to allow space for that as well. And you'll definitely need an adult spotter watching all four corners of the rig from the outside.
Oct-09-2023 08:39 AM
Oct-09-2023 07:51 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I would more concerned with the length and possible excessive weight for a 250/2500 truck. That's a LOT of tail wagging the Dog!!!
Oct-08-2023 07:07 PM
valhalla360 wrote:
Pull out as far as you can but with a 38ft trailer, your front wheels will be in the far side ditch before you can start the turn if you wait for the trailer axles to reach the road.
Oct-08-2023 01:18 PM
valhalla360 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I would more concerned with the length and possible excessive weight for a 250/2500 truck. That's a LOT of tail wagging the Dog!!!
Semi-tractor required?
GVWR is only 9k on the trailer he lists...a 3/4 ton should be fine.
Oct-08-2023 12:10 PM
valhalla360 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
I think I would more concerned with the length and possible excessive weight for a 250/2500 truck. That's a LOT of tail wagging the Dog!!!
Semi-tractor required?
GVWR is only 9k on the trailer he lists...a 3/4 ton should be fine.