Walking through campsites

[CampingN_C_]

I'm I the only one that finds that rude? I've been at the beach for a week now, one spot back from the end and I have people constantly walking through our site, because they're too lazy to walk another 50 feet. These sites are not huge so they're walking right through our chairs, bikes etc.
Guess I'm just venting this morning.

[ryegatevt]

I think the moderators are on summer vacation...

[JaxDad]

spoon059 wrote:
Reading comprehension is a tough skill, isn't it?


.... I would hope that you aren't violating the rules of the forum with personal attacks... ...

Ummmmm. Yeah. :R

[pappcam]

lakeside013104 wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:

pappcam wrote:

CampingN.C. wrote:
It's about respect, privacy and manners. Period. These are all very basic values I (thought) all campers shared. I'm obviously incorrect.

I agree. Kids don't really know any better sometimes so that's not such a big deal but an adult should really know better than to invade someone else's privacy.

I'm sure some people don't really care if you cut through but lots of people do find it rude and that should take precedence.

I think that part of the problem with adults is that they are from a generation that was never taught as children.

Dog Folks, You are absolutely correct! 🙂

Lakeside

Nope. There are miserable and self-entitled seniors all over the place. This place seems to be living and breathing proof of that. The only thing that changes from generation to generation is the year on the calendar.

I almost feel sorry for the "Get off my lawn!" and "When I was a kid..." types that seem to be completely disillusioned about how it was "back in the old days".

[spoon059]

JaxDad wrote:
But what you are saying seems to be more like charging someone with trespassing if in a busy cafe they sat at the same table as you, after all it's YOUR table right?

There's a big difference between a residence and a parking spot.

When I go to the restaurant, I don't pay money to reserve the table, nor do I sign an agreement with the restaurant authorizing me certain rights to the table. Furthermore, I have never been to a restaurant that had a list of rules. Nice try...

Interesting point on the parking spot though. My father used to live in NYC. He paid for long term (in and out privileges) parking spot. If someone was parked in HIS spot, the spot that he paid money to have the right to use, they were trespassing and he could have it towed. Funny thing about parking spots in NYC... they have rules associated with it (kinda like in a campground) and there were consequences for disobeying the rules.

[spud1957]

This has to be one of the oddest forums on the internet. A simple topic about campers cutting thru their site ends up being about lawsuits, liablility, biting dogs blah blah blah.........bizarre.

[Dog_Folks]

Bird Freak wrote:
Want to see one of the big problems we have in this country? Look how many posters here want to talk law suits and who is liable for anything. Not so many years ago this was not a problem.

Very true, but people did not walk through your campsite either back then. Law suits are a result of frustrated people, they don't know where to turn.

[Bird_Freak]

Want to see one of the big problems we have in this country? Look how many posters here want to talk law suits and who is liable for anything. Not so many years ago this was not a problem.

[peaches_cream]

spoon059 wrote:

peaches&cream wrote:
I definitely am not a "internet lawyer". I have 21 yrs. of P&C Insurance experience. I sold Auto and Homeowners coverage. You will find out your rights soon enough without me worry about you. :S

Ha ha ha... Insurance salesman??? That's pretty close to the same level as lawyer in my eyes. Of course you are quick to point out potential liabilities... that's how you make money. No response to the tripping hazards, sharp corners, electric wires or anything else??? Come on, if you sold for 21 years you should be better than that!!!

:@

[toedtoes]

I think the concern with the "legalities" of ownership/rentership have overridden the idea of common courtesy.

If you are at the beach and lay out your beach towels and have your cooler, etc. in close proximity, while it's not illegal for someone to walk through your things, it is considered rude.

Same with a campsite. It may not be illegal to walk between my RV and the picnic table at my site, but it is rude. As some campers don't mind (and some even appear to enjoy the "camaraderie"), asking first may result in your being able to reduce your walking distance. But don't get mad if someone says no to your question and respect their wishes and walk around. And don't just do it without asking. Show some respect for others.

[JaxDad]

spoon059 wrote:

JaxDad wrote:
Ummm, actually, NO, it's not your site, you have been granted a temporary license to use it on a non-exclusive use basis.

This is done to prevent a slide down a VERY slippery slope, starting with someone grumbling about kids cutting through and ending in violence, or worse.

Imagine if every camper had the right to tell the grounds care people to bugger off for the entire season?

I've witnessed on more than one occasion a camper told to mend their ways or vacate the park for such behaviour, and a snarling dog is certainly a guarantee of a one-way ticket out the front gate anywhere.

JaxDad... renting out my townhouse to a renter provided my renter a temporary license to use the property on a non exclusive basis as well. That doesn't give me the right to barge into the bedroom in the middle of the night, does it?

There's the problem, you can't tell the difference.

Your rented townhouse was a RESIDENCE, someone's HOME. No you couldn't barge in, not even an inch inside the front door at any time of the day or night.

It is hardly the same thing with a campsite. Inside your RV, sure I go along with that.

But what you are saying seems to be more like charging someone with trespassing if in a busy cafe they sat at the same table as you, after all it's YOUR table right?

There's a big difference between a residence and a parking spot.

[clikrf8]

Duplicate post, sorry.

[clikrf8]

I really this has deteriorated to the point where it needs to be closed.

[spoon059]

peaches&cream wrote:
I definitely am not a "internet lawyer". I have 21 yrs. of P&C Insurance experience. I sold Auto and Homeowners coverage. You will find out your rights soon enough without me worry about you. :S

Ha ha ha... Insurance salesman??? That's pretty close to the same level as lawyer in my eyes. Of course you are quick to point out potential liabilities... that's how you make money. No response to the tripping hazards, sharp corners, electric wires or anything else??? Come on, if you sold for 21 years you should be better than that!!!

[tpi]

I think a lot of it is newer campers. We camped as kids and no cutting through other's spots was drilled into us. Probably a good start on this would be this rule posted prominently among other rules. A friendly chat with offenders my be in order depending… I don't like it either but it is pretty harmless if it doesn't happen continuously. If it does some action is in order.

Litter was the thing being cleaned up when I was a kid. It was far worse than today. Many respectable citizens of my grandparents generation thought nothing of throwing stuff out of the car (born about 1900). I can't see any overall trend towards selfishness, people are just people. The good the bad..