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Acampingwewillg
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Apr 22, 2016

Air suspension and shock's

After getting a rough estimate at replacing the above mentioned items(4 new air bags and 4 new Koni shock's) since I'm experiencing some suspension problems, I'm thinking of trying this myself. Typically, it does not look that difficult but the internet can make things look easy. Shock's, not a big deal as long as I can get the bolts loose on a '96 motor home but the air bags while not looking bad, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted this project? I guess I feel better that I don't have an 8 air bag chassis...:-)
  • Last resort is to bolt on a steering stabilizer Jeepers use. Horizontal shock absorber on the toad tie-rod.
  • Also, to be sure, it's not a side to side(swaying type) movement but a Rocking back and forth like a boat in rough sea's. I've had a rear flat on the MH before and I'd swear that that is what it is by the feeling.
  • Yes, it is flat towed. I switched to this toad about a year ago from the Saturn, which never was an issue. I can see some uneven wearing of the Driv side tire on toad but with getting new tires soon and alignment, I hope that solves that issue.
  • Your toad if flat towed is not tracking correctly. It'll wag the hindquarters of your rig like a Cocker Spaniel presented with a 16 oz porterhouse.
  • After doing a tad of research on larger wheels, it appears that even though the wheel diameter increases the overall tire diameter does not so I guess that would give me any lift in suspension at all. Oh well...didn't really want new wheels anyways, tires cost enough!
  • Let me add some info:
    Over the last 1000 miles I've had a strange happening. While coming home from a road trip, making a right hand turn onto a street, I felt and observed what I thought was a flat tire on the MH or toad. I could see the toad in the monitor rocking back and forth as if limping on a flat. I pulled over right away, walked the perimeter and alas, no flat. Pulled away slowly and no additional problem. Well, this happened last week again, a couple months apart. Once again, the same rocking and rolling after switching lanes and going over an RR crossing. Same result, no flat and no further issue.

    So to set the stage, I've been towing a different toad for about a year now with different tow bar setup. Use to have a Saturn toad with Roadmaster now tow an HHR with a Demco bar. The height difference is not significant between veh and MH but it has caused some concern. The HHR rides low and if I lover the hitch to be level, it bottom's out often but even still, I'm pretty close to the 4" formula.

    I can't place what might be causing this...so I've started grasping at anything....some possible idea's are:
    1) It appears my HHR can take up to 20" wheels so since I need new tires anyway, I might go with a bigger wheel to increase Veh height.
    2) I checked under the MH, looking at air bags/shocks etc....While I have replaced the Ride height valves years ago, the bags and shocks(Koni's) are original equip(1995 chassis) and the passenger bag does not appear to inflate at the same rate as the Driv side bag. I'm thinking that even though the bags and shocks may still be OK, there age might be an issue in the remaining life span of the MH?(it's a quality MH so I'm hoping for some more year's put of it).
    3) It seems HHR's have typical issues with engine mount torgue causing a rocking sensation on front wheel drive veh's. They made a torgue dampening devise but I'm unsure if this is an issue while the veh is being towed/un powered.
    4) Another thought, would be alignment of my toad but I'll satisfy this issue when I get new tires/wheel and have it aligned.

    In a LONG nut shell, I'm throwing things at the problem while not knowing the cause...so any thought's or anyone have a similar experience? I'd welcome any guess'es? :-) Sorry for being long winded.

    PS...I've looked over the tow bar for any sign's of binding that might cause this..now while I don't care for the nomenclature of the Demco bar as much as I liked the Roadmaster bar, I can't see any evidence of a part sticking, then releasing that might cause this rock/roll!
  • I use Rock Auto whenever possible. Actually purchased my Reman transmission from them. Thank you....
  • Acampingwewillgo wrote:
    After getting a rough estimate at replacing the above mentioned items(4 new air bags and 4 new Koni shock's) since I'm experiencing some suspension problems, I'm thinking of trying this myself. Typically, it does not look that difficult but the internet can make things look easy. Shock's, not a big deal as long as I can get the bolts loose on a '96 motor home but the air bags while not looking bad, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted this project? I guess I feel better that I don't have an 8 air bag chassis...:-)


    Check http://www.rockauto.com/
    for parts. Not sure about air bags, but I get shocks and front suspension rebuild kits from there. Fast shipping and good lists of compatible parts, listed by make year and model. Good resource even if you buy elsewhere.
    I know a great mechanic who works from home. Replaced all my motorcrap shocks and made sure to have grease fittings on all new parts.

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