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solman wrote:
OP I have over 40 years of automotive experience under my belt. You want to join a 10ga to 12ga wire and don't know how to solder. These are probably stranded wires you are encountering as I believe you said 12volt. Use a butt connector and a good crimp tool and you will be fine. Tug on the wires after crimping to make sure they are secure. If it comes apart redo it. If it is exposed to the weather cover with a piece of heat shrink tubing. A good idea to use it anyway. Wire nuts are not generally used in automotive applications for 12v circuits.
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โMar-29-2022 09:02 PM
dieseltruckdriver wrote:profdant139 wrote:
I need to join 10 gauge to 12 gauge -- and believe it or not, I have never used butt splice connectors. I've done my Internet research but have not been able to answer these two questions with any certainty:
First, when the package says "10/12 connectors," are they only for joining 10 to 12? Or are they saying that both ends of the connector will accept either 10 or 12?
Second, there is heat shrink, crimp, solder, etc. Which type will provide the most durable result, and which one is the easiest to use?
I am not a good solder-er, so I am hoping to avoid that method. As you can tell, I am not confident when it comes to electrical work.
Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom!
Prof, I read through all of the pages before I posted, just to make sure that Mex didn't post. He has the most experience of anyone I have seen on these boards on these type of topics and I would trust his over my experience.
GDE's post on the first page with the link to the crimpers is good information for low voltage stranded wire. I actually carry that same crimper in my 5er. Use plain butt connectors and put heat shrink over them. Just put the heat shrink on the wire before crimping. ๐
I am a fan of soldering wires, but they make the wire brittle. That's not something you want when you are going down the road. Soldering as well as wire nuts are just fine on something that never moves or vibrates. That being said, I currently have wire nuts on my 30 amp connection, but that is going to change this spring when I will be installing a surge protector.
โMar-29-2022 07:31 PM
profdant139 wrote:
I need to join 10 gauge to 12 gauge -- and believe it or not, I have never used butt splice connectors. I've done my Internet research but have not been able to answer these two questions with any certainty:
First, when the package says "10/12 connectors," are they only for joining 10 to 12? Or are they saying that both ends of the connector will accept either 10 or 12?
Second, there is heat shrink, crimp, solder, etc. Which type will provide the most durable result, and which one is the easiest to use?
I am not a good solder-er, so I am hoping to avoid that method. As you can tell, I am not confident when it comes to electrical work.
Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom!
โMar-29-2022 07:26 PM
โMar-29-2022 05:29 PM
TechWriter wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
YES they meet "CODE" but IMHO they are just as bad as stab and jab receptacles.Mike134 wrote:
X2!! on the WAGOs GARBAGE!!
Since the two of you are passing yourself off as experts, why do you not like WAGOs? Experience? Personal preference?
โMar-29-2022 04:27 PM
TechWriter wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
YES they meet "CODE" but IMHO they are just as bad as stab and jab receptacles.Mike134 wrote:
X2!! on the WAGOs GARBAGE!!
Since the two of you are passing yourself off as experts, why do you not like WAGOs? Experience? Personal preference?
โMar-29-2022 04:24 PM
profdant139 wrote:
Someone said, "I never knew connecting two wires together was so complicated." That's the problem with being a non-expert (which is what I am for sure). I often don't know what I don't know until I ask. I have learned from past misteaks -- don't assume that something that looks simple is simple.
True story -- we were taking my kids skiing for the first time and told them they would take lessons to start. My 8 year old said, "Lessons? I don't need lessons. I already know how to ski. You just put your poles between your legs and go!"
To put it another way, confidence is that wonderful feeling you have before you really understand what's happening.
So that is why I asked about how to connect two wires on my RV. My gut said "wire nuts" and my head said "maybe not -- better check with the good folks on the forum."
โMar-29-2022 04:13 PM
profdant139 wrote:
Someone said, "I never knew connecting two wires together was so complicated." That's the problem with being a non-expert (which is what I am for sure). I often don't know what I don't know until I ask. I have learned from past misteaks -- don't assume that something that looks simple is simple.
โMar-29-2022 04:04 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
YES they meet "CODE" but IMHO they are just as bad as stab and jab receptacles.
Mike134 wrote:
X2!! on the WAGOs GARBAGE!!
โMar-29-2022 04:04 PM
โMar-29-2022 03:53 PM
Mike134 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:TechWriter wrote:profdant139 wrote:
I need to join 10 gauge to 12 gauge -- and believe it or not, I have never used butt splice connectors.
They're fine, and you have plenty of choices.
Also, look at WAGO 221s.
YES they meet "CODE" but IMHO they are just as bad as stab and jab receptacles. Simply put your touching a small surface to complete the circuit with these. MUCH better off with a wire nut or even a butt splice.
I built over 100 Dental Clinics in my career and I did not allow them on my jobs. Only place I did was connecting low voltage draw lighting.
X2!! on the WAGOs GARBAGE!!
Grit dog this post just might get to 10 pages before the week is done!! LOL I've already unsubscribed, way too much email notifying me of yet another post. I'll just peek in every so often