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Carbon monoxide danger. A sense of perspective

MEXICOWANDERER
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Sometimes our leaders are dumber than a sack of rocks. They assssssume everyone "out there" has a double digit IQ. "Look Dick look. See Jane run" does not cut it for many people.

You don't have to read the cut n paste from Wikipedia if you don't want to - no one is pointing a gun at you. The following is an excerpt. See if you can ascertain the # 1 frightening fact about carbon monoxide and absorption into the blood...




The binding of oxygen is affected by molecules such as carbon monoxide (CO) (for example, from tobacco smoking, car exhaust, and incomplete combustion in furnaces). CO competes with oxygen at the heme binding site. Hemoglobin binding affinity for CO is 250 times greater than its affinity for oxygen, meaning that small amounts of CO dramatically reduce hemoglobin's ability to transport oxygen. Since carbon monoxide is a colorless, odorless and tasteless gas, and poses a potentially fatal threat, detectors have become commercially available to warn of dangerous levels in residences. When hemoglobin combines with CO, it forms a very bright red compound called carboxyhemoglobin, which may cause the skin of CO poisoning victims to appear pink in death, instead of white or blue. When inspired air contains CO levels as low as 0.02%, headache and nausea occur; if the CO concentration is increased to 0.1%, unconsciousness will follow. In heavy smokers, up to 20% of the oxygen-active sites can be blocked by CO.
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pkunk
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dahkota wrote:
Actually, since the average IQ in the US is about 100 (some put it at 98), at least half the population has an IQ lower, in the double digits. It's not just our leaders that are dumber than a sack of rocks. Proof? We elect them, don't we?
Well, we do.....but what are our choices? One dumb a$$ over another? Might be better off with the rocks.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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I am researching CO2 for an unrelated objective. Soft drink dispensing that has to be kept in a small room with no window.

wa8yxm
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Well after the Dick and Jane comment... I expected some yammer on mandatory regulations requiring CO detectors or some such.. What I got was a darn good argument for having them.

Now: For the record, I am a product of the Public education system, Went to the smallest K-12 Public school in the state of Michigan.. Many of you have heard of that town (Tekonsha) but how many know it's a TOWN?.. Enough of that..

What is my point of telling you this.....

His cut and paste only contained one new "Fact" (The number 250) The rest of what was in it we covered in, as I recall, high school. Might have been junior high, but I think it was high.

(My memory suffers a bit when it comes to 50 year old time lines) the teacher also discussed symptoms of CO poisoning so we stood a chance of getting out of there should the CO level climb where there is no detector. (The cut and paste covered it too) .

I'm also no good on names and faces.... Rather good on science stuff though, and math, and electronics,, And for the record my IQ has 3 digits.

(100, is by definition the average IQ by the way)
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mockturtle
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CO2 is carbon dioxide, which we emit every time we exhale. CO, carbon monoxide is deadly.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Brain Fart pure and simple CO is what I meant. Carbon monoxide. At the same moment I am researching CO2 detectors. Thanks for jumping on this. Dumb of me.

BTW CO2 detectors are insanely expensive. High maintenance. Temperamental.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
If you think my posts are boring, tune them out. This has nothing at all to do with Mexico vs the US. Well, the point was lost upon some - that has to be factored in. If you want to read solely questions about whistling toilets and "My refrigerator quit for the ninth time in six years" it's a free country. Some forums have threads that would cause a nuclear reaction to regress back into its case due to boredom.

Well, thank god we have you, eh? :R
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2oldman
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1 oxide, not 2.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Carbon Dioxide is poisonous

Do not operate a generator indoors

Carbon Dioxide can kill you

Wonderful. That is not impressive. A San Francisco Muni streetcar can kill you. What is impressive is that the blood selects CO more than 250 times (that isn't percent) it is TIMES as readily as O2

If you think my posts are boring, tune them out. This has nothing at all to do with Mexico vs the US. Well, the point was lost upon some - that has to be factored in. If you want to read solely questions about whistling toilets and "My refrigerator quit for the ninth time in six years" it's a free country. Some forums have threads that would cause a nuclear reaction to regress back into its case due to boredom.

mockturtle
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And the latest study shows our average IQ has dropped about 12 points from where it was 200 years ago. Check out the movie "Idiocracy". I agree that it has nothing to do CO.
I believe it. And I'm sure that television (in lieu of reading) and other entertainment media are at least partly to blame.
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K_Charles
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Maybe the OP thinks that Wikipedia was written by Mexican leaders.

pianotuna
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Hi,

That is why I won't run my generator when sleeping. And yes, I do have a working CO detector.
Regards, Don
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Fresno_Tundra_D
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dahkota wrote:
Actually, since the average IQ in the US is about 100 (some put it at 98), at least half the population has an IQ lower, in the double digits. It's not just our leaders that are dumber than a sack of rocks. Proof? We elect them, don't we?

And the latest study shows our average IQ has dropped about 12 points from where it was 200 years ago. Check out the movie "Idiocracy". I agree that it has nothing to do CO.
E.Lee Galik

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The word "fatal" is enough for me.
Sad part is children are more affected than the adults that are supposed to protect them.