Coleman Mach 8232 series to Atwood
I have two ancient (2003) Coleman A/C units which are ready for replacement. The system is run by the Intellitec 00-00591-200 controller and a no-longer-available Climate Controller also by Intellitec...
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Well, doug, thanks for that - it is what I was asking for - input. You don't have me on years of experience however. I have found that most often the problems with a maligned piece of equipment is not necessarily earned. I don't do my purchases based on other people's biases either, rather on the facts presented. And I appreciate your candor, but not your tone.
Now, what is it that I want to do that is a 'NEVER'? Change from Coleman to another brand made by Dometic that has features that I like while Coleman doesn't? Is it cheaper because it doesn't sell? Are people using them unhappy with them? What is going wrong that they cannot have fixed by now (it has been out for quite awhile). You are not the first who have said they are not a good unit, but the other guy's reason was that they are a knockoff of the Cormorant made in Australia - in fact, based on the installation manual, they are a cheapened version of Cormorant made by Dometic in Australia. And the cheapening was to replace several metal parts with plastic (shields, etc.) If you know something about that, I am willing to listen, but so far your rhetoric has been too broad and not aimed at persuading, rather abusive threatening which is of little help.
By the way, many companies buy out others to get something that the other company has that they want. That could range all of the way from a technology to sales areas. Why is Atwood cheaper? I can think of several reasons - one is that they make a better product for less money. Your suggesting that it is because they are inferior somehow - that is what I want to know - how are they inferior because what I see does not appear to be inferior - especially not to Dometic who is failing miserably with, what was it, the Penguin - not sure. So now they have a replacement called Atwood branded that has a pretty good name. Some problems with people who work in their customer service, but is that abnormal?
I don't know why Dometic and Coleman seem to have a lock on the US market. Some of the larger RVs use Dometic, but I cannot see why. My Colemans have worked reasonably well, too, but they are not without problems either.
I do know that for the time my RV has left that I own it, I do not want to spend a bunch of money on it. If I can get two working 15K with heatpump units that work, are lighter than the Coleman, quieter, lower power usage, have digital thermostats and can be made to work with my Intellitec unit (the part of it that I use), I am inclined to do so.
I am open to logical reasons, not to irrational threatening - you have been warned, really?
Now, what is it that I want to do that is a 'NEVER'? Change from Coleman to another brand made by Dometic that has features that I like while Coleman doesn't? Is it cheaper because it doesn't sell? Are people using them unhappy with them? What is going wrong that they cannot have fixed by now (it has been out for quite awhile). You are not the first who have said they are not a good unit, but the other guy's reason was that they are a knockoff of the Cormorant made in Australia - in fact, based on the installation manual, they are a cheapened version of Cormorant made by Dometic in Australia. And the cheapening was to replace several metal parts with plastic (shields, etc.) If you know something about that, I am willing to listen, but so far your rhetoric has been too broad and not aimed at persuading, rather abusive threatening which is of little help.
By the way, many companies buy out others to get something that the other company has that they want. That could range all of the way from a technology to sales areas. Why is Atwood cheaper? I can think of several reasons - one is that they make a better product for less money. Your suggesting that it is because they are inferior somehow - that is what I want to know - how are they inferior because what I see does not appear to be inferior - especially not to Dometic who is failing miserably with, what was it, the Penguin - not sure. So now they have a replacement called Atwood branded that has a pretty good name. Some problems with people who work in their customer service, but is that abnormal?
I don't know why Dometic and Coleman seem to have a lock on the US market. Some of the larger RVs use Dometic, but I cannot see why. My Colemans have worked reasonably well, too, but they are not without problems either.
I do know that for the time my RV has left that I own it, I do not want to spend a bunch of money on it. If I can get two working 15K with heatpump units that work, are lighter than the Coleman, quieter, lower power usage, have digital thermostats and can be made to work with my Intellitec unit (the part of it that I use), I am inclined to do so.
I am open to logical reasons, not to irrational threatening - you have been warned, really?
