Help with Wiring

[RobWNY]

Would this wiring diagram be correct? I have 2 6v batteries wired in series for 12v and bought a truck bed tool box to house them in thinking that one day I may want to go to 4 batteries and this will give me the room to do that. I also bought a 600w power inverter that will be installed in my front pass through. I chose a 600w model since I will be using about 400w of AC at most while dry camping. I bought and will have to install 2 power junction posts because the way the batteries will be housed in the box, the battery cables from the camper won’t reach the battery terminals. I also chose to go with a circuit breaker rather than a fuse for the inverter. I want to make sure before I start drilling holes and mounting things that I have the wiring correct. Thanks!

[westend]

The way you have the circuits drawn, there is no circuit protection to the main cables from battery to converter. You'll want a circuit breaker within a few inches of the battery for that.

[beemerphile1]

The inverter is a huge waste for charging a cell phone. Use a car charger and plug the cell phone directly into the 12vdc system.

[SoundGuy]

Clay L wrote:
Just need to make sure the converter is turned off when the inverter is operating. You may already be doing that with a transfer switch but I couldn't tell.

RobWNY wrote:
My plan is to turn off the converter when using the inverter but I will look at transfer switches. Primarily I will be using the inverter at night when I sleep to power a white noise machine and recharge cell phones. During the day, I don't have much of a need for AC power if any. If we end up needing it for anything during the day, I'll just have to remember to turn off the converter. Either way I'll have to take some action (turn off converter or flip the transfer switch).

Kinda overkill to power your trailer whole house when your inverter use will be so limited. You'll not only have to remember to turn off the converter but make sure the fridge is running on gas and the water heater electric heating element (if you have one) is turned off, along with anything else that may normally be powered by 120 vac shore power. Since you're planning on installing your new inverter in the front pass through cargo compartment it's a simple task to wire the inverter outputs to dedicated duplex receptacles inside the camper by the bed where it seems you're most likely to want that feed.

[SoundGuy]

RobWNY wrote:
And, where does one find those splicers? What are they actually called?

Here in Ontario I buy supplies like this at an electronics supply store chain called Sayal Electronics serving the trades and public but you can buy these anywhere electronics parts are sold, or online.

[Byrogie]

Yes, get the negative from inverter directly to the battery.

[RobWNY]

SoundGuy wrote:


No need for anything fancy, just extend the length of each cable with more cable and splicers like these and enclose them in heat shrink tubing.

What are these called and where do I buy them? I can't find anything like them on Google.

[hedge]

No reason to shut the converter off when running the inverter unless you are plugging your shore cord into the inverter creating a loop. If you are plugging devices directly into the inverter it is fine.

[RobWNY]

Clay L wrote:
Just need to make sure the converter is turned off when the inverter is operating. You may already be doing that with a transfer switch but I couldn't tell.

My plan is to turn off the converter when using the inverter but I will look at transfer switches. Primarily I will be using the inverter at night when I sleep to power a white noise machine and recharge cell phones. During the day, I don't have much of a need for AC power if any. If we end up needing it for anything during the day, I'll just have to remember to turn off the converter. Either way I'll have to take some action (turn off converter or flip the transfer switch).

[RobWNY]

DrewE wrote:
Fuses vs. circuit breakers: there's no inherent reason to always prefer one over the other in my opinion. Probably circuit breakers are a little handier in most situations.

Fuses are generally less expensive and often smaller in size, but obviously cannot be reset. Circuit breakers can be reset and (depending on the type) can also be used as a disconnect switch. Either one, properly sized for the wire, will safely prevent overcurrent in the case of a short circuit or overload and so keep the wire from getting too hot and potentially starting a fire, which is of course their primary purpose.

I didn't think there was any difference. I like the idea of circuit breakers only so I don't have to mess around finding another fuse if one were to blow. The difference in expense really isn't that much.

[RobWNY]

SoundGuy wrote:

jhilley wrote:
There is no need to run 4 cables between the camper and truck. The inverter and converter can connect at the same place on the camper. You didn't comment on what size cable you plan to use. For that distance 2 gauge would probably be preferable.

Actually there is. The stock terminal strips often used by trailer manufacturers are minimal at best so it's difficult to fit the termination lugs used on heavy gauge cable to all fit properly on these terminal strips. I have this exact situation on my own Coachmen and it's the reason I did run a separate set of 4 gauge cables from my 1000 watt PSW inverter 6' to where the battery is located. Since the OP is intending to power an even smaller 600 watt inverter 2 gauge is way heavier than he needs.

Yes, I know 2 gauge cable is heavier than what I need, but it's what I have on hand so I'm going to use that rather than buy a different gauge cable.

[DrewE]

Fuses vs. circuit breakers: there's no inherent reason to always prefer one over the other in my opinion. Probably circuit breakers are a little handier in most situations.

Fuses are generally less expensive and often smaller in size, but obviously cannot be reset. Circuit breakers can be reset and (depending on the type) can also be used as a disconnect switch. Either one, properly sized for the wire, will safely prevent overcurrent in the case of a short circuit or overload and so keep the wire from getting too hot and potentially starting a fire, which is of course their primary purpose.

[SoundGuy]

jhilley wrote:
There is no need to run 4 cables between the camper and truck. The inverter and converter can connect at the same place on the camper. You didn't comment on what size cable you plan to use. For that distance 2 gauge would probably be preferable.

Actually there is. The stock terminal strips often used by trailer manufacturers are minimal at best so it's difficult to fit the termination lugs used on heavy gauge cable to all fit properly on these terminal strips. I have this exact situation on my own Coachmen and it's the reason I did run a separate set of 4 gauge cables from my 1000 watt PSW inverter 6' to where the battery is located. Since the OP is intending to power an even smaller 600 watt inverter 2 gauge is way heavier than he needs.

[jhilley]

There is no need to run 4 cables between the camper and truck. The inverter and converter can connect at the same place on the camper. You didn't comment on what size cable you plan to use. For that distance 2 gauge would probably be preferable.

[Clay_L]

Just need to make sure the converter is turned off when the inverter is operating. You may already be doing that with a transfer switch but I couldn't tell.