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Honda 2000 won’t run my late model home furnace

C_Schomer
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I never use it for camping anymore and I only keep it cuz of my crappy power company. It will run the frig but the furnace is too fussy. Is there a device that will make it pure sine wave and will it then run the furnace?
Next ?… are all pure sine wave gens created equal so they will run this furnace or does it take a special model. Thanks, Craig
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Gdetrailer
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C Schomer wrote:
I never use it for camping anymore and I only keep it cuz of my crappy power company. It will run the frig but the furnace is too fussy. Is there a device that will make it pure sine wave and will it then run the furnace?
Next ?… are all pure sine wave gens created equal so they will run this furnace or does it take a special model. Thanks, Craig


Honda 2000 is already a "pure sinewave" output so no other devices needed to make it sinewave.

The problem you are having is actually between the control board of the furnace and how the generator is wired.

Some portable generators will not have a connection between the neutral position on the socket and the ground position of the socket.

The furnace control board is designed to check that there is continuity between the neutral and ground from your power source (IE breaker panel).

Inside your main breaker panel both neutral and equipment ground are tied together (IE "bonded") so everything on neutral and equipment ground are at the same ground potential.

The furnace control board needs to have the equipment ground and the neutral to be at the same voltage potential as the control board typically uses flame sensing via a probe into the flame to determine if the burner is lit. The flame across the probe creates a small electrical path from the burner to the probe. The burner must be at the same voltage potential as the neutral as the burner is connected to the equipment ground.

Without having the neutral and equipment ground at the same voltage potential the furnace control board is unable to detect the flame properly and the control board will fail the process until it reaches the retry limit and locks out until power is removed.

As others have mentioned, if your going to run the furnace from an extension cord plugged into your gen instead of through your breaker panel you will may need to create that neutral to ground bond. Other posters have shown how to do that with a plug that you plug into the other outlet on your gen.

Grit_dog
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ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
🙂 My furnace, HVAC system, runs on 240 volts. So my generator won't run it either.


My furnace is a woodstove. My Honda doesn't do much for it either....
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2oldman
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Maybe we'll get lucky and the OP will return.
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valhalla360
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2oldman wrote:
Fisherman wrote:
Has nothing to do with the fuel source, .
Has everything to do with the fuel if it's electric.


Furnace implies it burns fuel. Otherwise it would be an electric heater and 2000w is no where close to enough for a whole house electric heating system.

As others have mentioned, it's nothing to do with the sine wave but with the grounding.
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wa8yxm
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C Schomer wrote:
I never use it for camping anymore and I only keep it cuz of my crappy power company. It will run the frig but the furnace is too fussy. Is there a device that will make it pure sine wave and will it then run the furnace?
Next ?… are all pure sine wave gens created equal so they will run this furnace or does it take a special model. Thanks, Craig


I though the Honda EU-2000i Was PSW. if it's an older non inverter generator than the device to make it pure sine wave is ... Kind of expensive (Very expensive) a EU-3000i would be cheaper.

How big is the furnace's blower.. Good chance the starting current exceeds the generator's ability.
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2oldman
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Fisherman wrote:
Has nothing to do with the fuel source, .
Has everything to do with the fuel if it's electric.
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ROBERTSUNRUS
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🙂 My furnace, HVAC system, runs on 240 volts. So my generator won't run it either.
🙂 Bob 🙂
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time2roll
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How long is the extension cord? Is the cord #12 or #10 wire?

I assume this is a furnace with a burner so mostly just running maybe a half HP fan motor.

bob213
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Make a plug like this: and plug it into one of the 120v receptacles on the generator..It will think it's grounded.
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Fisherman
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Has nothing to do with the fuel source, there's a brazillion posts if you google it, modern furnaces need a neutral/ground bond, if they don't have it, they won't work. A lot of the inverter genny's are not bonded, therefore you can use a "cheater" male plug with the neutral/ground wires bonded. They even sell them.

2oldman
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It already is pure sine wave. What is the fuel source for this furnace? What happens when it fails to run it?
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Fisherman
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You may have to take an extra male plug and put a piece of 14 ga wire across the green (ground) and neutral (white), that's what I've been told. Then plug that into the generator while it's running.