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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
That among other things is one of the reasons I would not return to California, even if someone gave me free room and board. Cannot purchase pennyroyal oil. The safest, most effective insect repellent on earth I MAY DRINK IT AND INDUCE AN ABORTION.
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TomG2 wrote:Wow, you just can't get past the numbers, can you. How about "mostly" rather than any specific number? Yes, I have camped infield for NASCAR and I in fact said that NASCAR would be a non-issue, or are you conveniently ignoring that? Yes, I have camped on BLM land nowhere near others, which I also said is a non-issue. You also conveniently ignored that. And once again you claim that I am complaining about a brand, when I have made it clear that is not the case; in fact not one single time have I pointed at any specific brand as being bad or good. You conveniently ignore a heckuva lot, don't you? Do you even bother to read what I post? Evidently not. If you are going to quote me, quote me in full, so that others can more easily see that you ignore most of what is written and in fact contradict it.4x4van wrote:
OK, the statement is 95% true. Better? How about "IF he uses it in a campground near other people, he will be pissing people off.
People who throw out bogus statistics are sometimes called out on it. Sorry, but "If the shoe fits".
Apparently you have never been to a campground at a Nascar race? His 3500 watt Champion would not even be heard by his neighbors. Ever been on BLM land out West parked a half mile from the nearest camper? It is easy to complain about a brand instead of the people who go out of their way to irritate. I have heard diesel pickups clattering and banging while their owners warm them up. I do not dislike all diesel pickups because of that. I blame inconsiderate owners of any noisy device and there is no proof that the OP or I ever acted that way.
When a relatively new company, in this case Champion, comes along with a competitive product, great customer support, and at a lower price, the old guard does everything they can to discredit them. It even happened back in horse and buggy days. It has nothing to do with the word "IF" or "100%"
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4x4van wrote:
OK, the statement is 95% true. Better? How about "IF he uses it in a campground near other people, he will be pissing people off.
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TomG2 wrote:Wow, really? OK, the statement is 95% true. Better? How about "IF he uses it in a campground near other people, he will be pissing people off. Or maybe "IF he uses it in a typical campground, he will be pissing people off. Do either of those allow you to sleep better at night? Geez. The reality is that loud generators DO annoy and piss off people when they are used nearby, unless it is a venue where they are expected (NASCAR, tailgating, etc.). No one here complaining about that is making it up, nor are they "Champion" haters, nor are they just jumping on some imaginary bandwagon; rather, they have had to endure the annoyance firsthand.
According to 4X4van: "My statement that "IF he uses it in a campground, he will be pissing people off" is 100% true. Reread that and notice the word "IF."
It is NOT 100% true. There are campgrounds aplenty with the spacing where one could run a chain saw and nobody would hear it. Figures don't lie................. REREAD it and notice the 100% pissed off guarantee. Few things are 100% except maybe the folks who prefer what they own over what the other fellow has.
I know how to read and what "IF" means. It is a way to CYA when making 100% statements.