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free radical wrote:
Its not about beating Tesla its about make the environment cleaner.
Right now no car co. can come close to Tesla let alone beat it.

Most likely several grown up car manufacturers throughout the world could easily match Tesla performance and battery capacity if they wanted to plummet their sales volumes by having to charge Tesla prices.

Not all of the world's brilliant vehicle design engineers work for Tesla. ;)

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Dark-Horse-In-Battery-Tech-Could-Beat-Tesla.html

From the above article
Solid-state batteries is taking the lead in next generation li-ion batteries coming from Toyota, Volkswagen, Fisker, Hyundai, BMW, and others. VW is working with supplier QuantumScape to produce EV batteries going from the present 300 kilometers (186.4 miles) in the E-Golf up to 750 kilometers (466 miles) that would lead the market in range. The German automaker put $100 million into QuantumScape for a battery joint venture company with the solid-state battery startup.
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Solid state batts dont exist in any EV today.
Fisker is Bankrupt
VW makes lot o promises but has no EVs to show for it.same w BMW and Benz


Its not about beating Tesla its about make the environment cleaner.
Right now no car co. can come close to Tesla let alone beat it.

And in battery storage systems Tesla has a big huge lead also

https://electrek.co/?s=Tesla+battery+storage+

All the anti Tesla propaganda seems like investors trying to raise
money for some pie in the sky UNproven tech.

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Dark-Horse-In-Battery-Tech-Could-Beat-Tesla.html

Thanks David for that informative link! Maybe battery energy storage density can indeed come ever closer to the energy storage density of fossil fuels.

However - expanding upon the outstanding point you've tried to make so many times in the past - at what overall cost to the environment will it be to put everyone in the world into an EV and to then keep everyone's EV charged wherever and whenever they need day after day? Ughhh.