More confusion for Inverters?

[shelby17]

I have a 2012 Jayco trailer with a 13,500 AC Unit. I will be getting a Generator for powering everything including AC when needed. We tend to camp in the middle of nowhere so I would kind of like to be self sufficient regarding power. We dont use the Mic or TV, basically just a couple of lights and if its hot the AC. I have a Yamaha EF 2400 iSHC Inverter lined up to maybe buy. I believe it will start up the AC but have heard from a couple people stories of under rated inverters running the AC only to find out soon enough that the AC units condensors have given out because of using those Inverters. Any feed back regarding would help my decision.
Many Thanks,

[Golden_HVAC]

I have heard from other Rv.net members who say that the Honda 3000 watt generator can start the compressor on a hot day, but it actually takes more power to restart the compressor on a hot day. The 3000 watt compressor had trouble restarting the compressor, so they took it back, and bought a pair of Honda 2000 watt generators and linked them together. This works great, and has power to spare.

Many like the idea of a pair of light 'easy to carry' 2000 watt Honda's that are only 47 pounds each. Make sure they are well locked up, as they are easy to steal as well.

Check this place for a great price. Mayberrys.com

They can not advertise their prices online, as Honda stopped selling generators to any dealership that advertises a product for less than the MSRP.

Mayberrys has been advertising in Trailer life magazine for years, even in a issue from 1996 that I have!

Fred.

[Chinolbz]

The Yamaha 2400 would not start my Dometic 13.5 AC unit at sea level and 90 degrees. I was sad! Chino

[GordonThree]

If you can wait Amazon typically has the WEN brand 2000 inverter on sale monthly at woot.com. Same parallel cable as Yamaha if I recall correctly.

[Boon_Docker]

smkettner wrote:
Parallel capability (Kit sold separately)

http://www.championpowerequipment.com/products/inverters/73536i-2000w-inverter/

X2

Good choice!

[time2roll]

Parallel capability (Kit sold separately)

http://www.championpowerequipment.com/products/inverters/73536i-2000w-inverter/

http://www.amazon.com/Kipor-IG2000-Inverter-Generator-Camping/dp/B005QRBLNW

[shelby17]

After reading the replys I am leaning to twinning a couple of 2000s together. Anyone brands besides the Hondas and Yamahas able to quietly do this. Generacs , Westinghouse, Hyundai, etc?

[shelby17]

I am kind of leaning your way there mlts22. I am having a hard time finding all the Inverters able to twin with another besides the Hondas and the Yamahas. How about Generacs or Westinghouse & Hyundais?

[mlts22]

The 2400 watt Yamaha is a good unit, but it is "neither fish, nor fowl". There are many threads on good/bad luck with getting it to start various sized A/Cs, and 13,500 is probably the breaking point.

As mentioned above, I wouldn't bother with the 2400 watt Yamaha. I'd either get a set of Honda eu2000i generators and run them in parallel or a 3000+ wattage inverter generator. The Honda twins give you a lot of flexibility, while the 3000+ watt generator can give you remote start.

[DrewE]

I would venture to guess that the AC failures are not related to the generator usage, but due to age or other factors and are merely coincidental with the generator usage.

It's not clear to me whether "condenser" in this case refers to the outside coils of the cooling system that condense the refrigerant (which I cannot imagine could possibly be affected by the electrical power source used), or to the motor capacitor (which could be). The motor capacitor can die due to old age or other problems. The cooling system coils should be basically trouble-free unless they suffer mechanical damage or are corroded from the elements.

[time2roll]

shelby17 wrote:
I believe it will start up the AC but have heard from a couple people stories of under rated inverters running the AC only to find out soon enough that the AC units condensors have given out because of using those Inverters. Any feed back regarding would help my decision.
Many Thanks,

If the generator can start the A/C then it will run fine.
The inverter-generator will cut power from overload before it runs the A/C at too low of voltage that causes harm.

High temperatures and elevation will be the enemy.

[GordonThree]

I can confirm a single Yamaha 2000 won't start a 13.5 Coleman 3, even if it's not very hot out. A pair run the ac just fine with some left over to charge batteries and fridge on AC, but not enough to run MW or a toaster. The 2400 would make me go hmmm maybe?

[2manytoyz]

The Yamaha EF2400iS was built to run a 13,500 BTU A/C unit. It has the same sized engine as the 2800W and 3000W Yamaha generators! But it's half the weight of a 3000W generator.

I've had mine 10 years. Runs mine without issue. The power is cleaner than what's coming from the grid.

You can see all the testing I've done with mine here: http://www.2manytoyz.com/yamaha2400.html

[Crazy_Ray]

Norman what is meant by "people stories of under rated inverters running the AC only to find out soon enough that the AC condensors have given out because of using these inventers. All I tell you is that my Yamaha 2400 will run a 13.5 BTU AC nothing else is plugged up on Gen. Do a SEARCH on Yamaha 2400.

[RoyB]

I can turn everything OFF in my setup and just run the 13,500 A/C directly plugged into my 2KW HOnda. Then if I start the fan only first using the thermostat it will start up. Things are great until it needs to recycle then it trips my breaker haha...

We camp OFF-ROAD way back off the trail all the time. Don't ever really need the Air Cond... Fans do the trick for us... I run all my wanted toys off the battery bank and have it planed out to reduce my battery bank down to its 50% charge state by 8AM the next morning. Then I can run my generator most of the time for three hours with the trailer shore power cable plugged into the generator and use the on-board PD9260C Converter/charger Smart Mode unit to recharge my battery bank back up to its 90% charge state.

Then I am good to go for the next day/night run off my batteries... I use a smaller 600WATT PSW Power Inverter during the 6PM to the 10PM time frame each day to run a few of my low wattage 120VAC items off the battery bank...

We do this routine alot over the years since 2008...

Works great for our OFF-ROAD camping in my POPUP...




Roy Ken

[NinerBikes]

I'd get one of two things, either a pig heavy Honda Eu3000i, or a pair of Honda Eu2000i's with pairing wires, to run your A/C unit.