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no 12 volt power from batteries.

daytrader
Explorer II
Explorer II
1985 Holiday Rambler Imperial 33 ft.
electrical issue
please help

on shore power - lights work - therefore converter must work
on shore power, vehicle warming up - lights pulse
no shore power, vehicle not running, no power to 12v system

checked
batteries - full 12.6v Trojan T2 x 2
solar charging panel reading full charge on batteries
continuity from battery to fuse to inverter
continuity through fuse to inverter,
12.6V reading from output of inverter on pin one and four
no power to any sockets,
no power to any plug ins.
no power when drawing power from tool on plug in
distribution panel from converter
all fuses continuity through all

I'm stumped, unless there is a fuse somewhere hidden I don't know about.

any suggestions from all you knowledgeable people out there.

thanks in advance
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fischer
Explorer
Explorer
I had the same problem with a 2005 southwind turned out to be a bad ground from the battery to the chassis. My cable was bolted to the chassis and had come loose
Good luck
2016 Winnebago 35B v10
2006 Jeep Liberty 4x4
Blue ox Tow Bar

mkirsch
Nomad II
Nomad II
joebedford wrote:
I still wonder why the inverter is giving 12V


He probably means CONverter.

Someone who doesn't know the difference can easily use the terms interchangeably by mistake.

An INverter is used to generate 120V AC power using 12V DC battery power. It would be unusual for a 1985 RV to have an inverter on board unless it was custom installed by the owner.

A CONverter is what plugs into shore power, takes 120V AC and turns it into 12V DC to power all the 12V goodies in your RV.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

joebedford
Nomad II
Nomad II
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
TWO SEPARATE WIRES COMING FROM THE BATTERIES.
Another quote for the Mexi ??? file.

MEXICOWANDERER
Explorer
Explorer
TWO SEPARATE WIRES COMING FROM THE BATTERIES.

enblethen
Nomad
Nomad
OP:
Do you have an inverter or are do you have a converter?
1985 model I would say it is a converter. The 12 volts you see would be coming from the converter.

Bud
USAF Retired
Pace Arrow


2003 Chev Ice Road Tracker

joebedford
Nomad II
Nomad II
I still wonder why the inverter is giving 12V

MEXICOWANDERER
Explorer
Explorer
Fuses usually ATO or ATC plug-in. 3-30 amps plastic, different colors. does your test LIGHT light up when you ground the test light clip to ground/negative then touch the test light tip to fuses and connections? You have a BAD CONNECTION someplace.

START where the ground CABLE runs from the batteries to the frame. Take IMAGES WITH YOUR PHONE. Then disconnect and wire brush and sandpaper till bright then reconnect. DO THE CONNECTION AT THE RIG'S FRAME!

THEN do the positives. One at a time. Shiny clean. This is at the batteries.

How's your lights now?

DrewE
Explorer II
Explorer II
The inverter is not the only place that battery power goes to. You apparently have a separate connection to the 12V distribution panel, which is not at all unusual. This connection very often has some sort of a disconnect solenoid switch in it to shut off the power to the RV for storage. This is sometimes called a "salesman's switch" for reasons that I'm not entirely certain of.

On my motorhome, there's a little toggle switch to control this solenoid near the entry door, with one side labeled "use" and the other "store", and a red light that illuminates when in the "use" mode. This is a momentary switch; it springs back to the middle, and only activates the solenoid to turn the power on or off. Most have something very similar, though of course the location of the switch could be most anywhere.

There is probably also a fuse or a self-resetting circuit breaker near the battery for the wire that leads to the 12V distribution panel. This would be separate from/in addition to the fuse for the inverter wire.

It's possible that you have a wire that is just plain not connected to the battery but should be. I'd take a careful look for one hanging around loosely in the battery area.

westend
Explorer
Explorer
Do you have power on both sides of that battery isolator??
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
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Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
daytrader wrote:
I have done that, that's why I'm stumped. have continuity through all wires and fuses. I'm missing something, but don't know what


Don't check for continuity- check for power, using the battery as a ground. If power is getting to the panel.....
-- Chris Bryant

daytrader
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have done that, that's why I'm stumped. have continuity through all wires and fuses. I'm missing something, but don't know what

Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
Basically, you just need to start with a test light hooked to the battery ground, start at the battery and see where the power stops.
-- Chris Bryant

joebedford
Nomad II
Nomad II
"12.6V reading from output of inverter on pin one and four"

I'm confused. Why would you have 12.6V on the output of an inverter? An inverter outputs 120V AC power.

daytrader
Explorer II
Explorer II
thanks for that advice, its confirming what is not wrong. But, I do not have a battery disconnect switch connected to the house batteries. They run straight from the house batteries to the inverter. What runs the 12v system from the batteries, when not on shore power, that seems to be the issue. Am going to dealership today to talk to service department for ideas, but was hoping it was a quick fix, like a hidden fuse or a corroded connection I have not found yet.