Off Topic Medical Plea

joebedford wrote:

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Use the noodle. How many people die from influenza? NONE

Untrue.

Explain your rationale of mechanism. What happens?

At best, says Fauci, flu vaccines are only ever about 60 percent effective. While that makes it at least 60 percent more effective than not getting a vaccine at all, it still means the rapidly mutating virus has a fighting chance.

What Makes This Flu Season So Bad

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Use the noodle. How many people die from influenza? NONE

Untrue.

Down here one country is the prime supplier -- Switzerland. I went unprotected into the teeth of the 2010 outbreak in California and never got a sniffle. Lots of grumbles from inoculated sick people.

I've never understood the hatred towards the Chinese. They are hard workers, creative people, great at business and just happen to knock the socks off of other countries.

That's what it is. Fear of the competition.

MrWizard wrote:
The Flue vaccine has missed the mark
The fault lands on the CDC
They are picking the strains too early...

Nope. It is WHO, not CDC that decides in February what strains for the Northern Hemisphere the following Fall.

And no, the Chinese were not approved to manufacture the Flu Vaccine until the end of 2015.

Lots of bad info in this thread.

T18skyguy wrote:
My background is medical, and one thing that has helped me is to remember that the flu can only infect you through a mucous membrane. In flu season, remember every door handle is contaminated. Avoid touching your eyes, nose, mouth, and personal area's which are routes of transmission. When you eat a sandwich, hold it in it's wrapper so the bread doesn't get the pathogens. Avoid coughing people and kids as much as possible, so as not to inhale it. With kids, that remark is made because their always sick. Avoid tight crowds in flu season. If a door handle is a lever, use your wrist instead of your hand to open it. The more you avoid people the better( except for RV'ers :) Look at your immune system as an army. Do you want a trained battle hardened army or a bunch of new recruits? Vaccines train your army of white blood cells to attack an invader more effectively. You can't avoid everything, life must be lived, but with the right approach you can greatly lessen it. And yes hand washing, but the next thing you touch recontaminates you. If your an oldie like me, get the pneumonia shots. By the time you realize your not invincible, it's too late.

Best advice yet. The shots alone don't do much good unless you protect yourself with the above info. Thanks for posting.

6-days. Cough gone. Fever gone. No secondary infections. And I am an "at risk" over 70 senior with diabetes AND heart issues.

I used to follow the bouncing ball. I ended up in Washoe Medical Center. Went into the flu with reddened eardrums, sore throat. Sometimes the medical community is extremely ignorant

"Huh? A pneumonia shot stops ear infections and reduces incidence of strep throat?" Yes. So says the Journal of The American Medical Association.

50% of the "discomfort" of influenza is caused by the superinfection not the virus.

Grand question...how about influenza, compounded by an inner ear infection PLUS strep throat? Can't happen? Yeah, right...

Bacterial Infections within the head AUGMENTIN. Amoxicillin plus Clauvanic Acid. Infections of the larynx and bronchial tubes CIPROFLOACIN Check with your doctor.

The Flu DOES NOT IN ANY WAY INVOLVE A "SORE THROAT"

In this You tube video, there is a giant petri dish divided into 10 sections. As the sections move from 1 through 10, each subsequent layer has 10 times the strength of antibiotic placed on it as the previous layer. Then they introduce bacterial pathogens at both ends, and you can see in real time how fast they mutate and make the antibiotic ineffective. This is how they also mutate in the human population. See their ability to adapt before your eyes.

See it here

Two weeks for the flue
Another 7-10 days after, before the cough is gone