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BFL13
Explorer II
Aug 09, 2020

Solar Controller Wiring Mystery

Friend here in the off-grid campground had his controller wired weirdly, but said it was working until a wire fell out (it was a loose screw). I am his "tech guy" so was asked to fix it.

The PWM controller was re-wired (by somebody else!) since I saw it last summer, so that in the Array pair was Array Pos in the Pos and Batt Pos in the Array Neg.

The Array Neg was in the Batt Pos (but had fallen out so nothing worked now) and the Batt Neg was in the Batt Neg.

He said this was all working up till then, and he saw over 13 volts on his battery many times while on solar this season. I thought this would be impossible wired like that.

I fixed it so the array was on the array terminals and battery on the battery terminals, and it all works.

So how could it have worked before? All I can come up with is that made it "array-direct" with no voltage limitation, and he was just lucky it did not over-voltage with his set-up of a smaller solar set (one 130w flat on roof )and fairly high demand on his four 6s.

My brain is too scrambled to figure out if that is how it was or what the heck. Can anybody explain?

Thanks!
  • This is for a different controller, but is interesting for the wiring for the test.

    STEP 3: Test Blocking Diode – A unit with a shorted diode may blow any in-line fuses
    and damage the power FET (see above). A unit with an open diode will not
    charge the battery.


    1) With all ASC connections removed, connect the panel(+) to the ASC’s “ARRAY(+)”; panel(–)
    to the ASC’s “BATT(+)” (no battery connection).


    2) Measure voltage at ASC. Meter(+) to ASC’s ARRAY(+), meter(–) to ASC’s BATT(+)
    terminals. The reading should be .3 to .6 volts. A very high reading (16-20 volts*) would
    indicate an open diode, a very low reading (0 to .2 volts) would indicate a shorted diode.
    Units with open or shorted diodes are defective.

    Still can't figure it out. Not going to go back and take a chance on wrecking his solar. :)

    A PWM passes battery voltage through to the panel, so not clear what the paths are. Another ASC test is to wire the panel to the array terminals and no battery at all, then measure voltage at the battery terminals--should be 14ish or whatever the high set point is set at.

    http://specialtyconcepts.com/SPECIALTY_CONCEPTS_PDF_FILES/ASC_INSTRUC_MANUAL.PDF

    More coffee needed to tackle this puzzle some more!
  • can you hook it back up wrong and test!!!

    with a pos ground the panel pos and batt pos are common so the panel is shorted with both leads connecting to pos, zero voltage max current (Isc).

    The batt is connected to 2 neg terminals that the controller switches, if closed would short the battery, try with no over current protection!!!
  • 3_tons's avatar
    3_tons
    Explorer III
    I’ll venture an admittedly pure WAG:

    Is it possible that the ‘output side’ of the controller is simply a on-off type switch??...If so then,

    a) Neg Array to Pos controller output side, thru controller, Neg controller output side to batt Neg post.

    b) Pos Array to Pos controller input = equalizes within panels depletion zone (Pos) diodes - (no adverse effects).

    c) Pos batt to controller Neg input, passing through inductive coupling (??), then completing a path to the array Pos - no conflicts with above item ‘b’...

    But to make this madness all possible, how does the coupling become inductive??...Possibly a consequence of the controllers on-off pulsing action...

    As I said, this is just a wild arse guess - lol

    3 tons, after a shot of Jack