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My guess is that Cummins did what got VW in trouble, that is detect whether the truck was on the road or on the test dyno and then adjust the engine settings accordingly. It is a lot more challenging to measure emissions on the highway than on the test dyno so it is rarely done. It could be that a programmer put in the code for that without many people knowing, figuring that no one would notice. That is what happened at VW Computer code can be hard to read and I am sure that there is quite a lot of for that engine. So nobody else noticed until they went looking for it.
- pianotunaDec 27, 2023Nomad III
Unfortunately fines don't pay for greening the planet. We need to be proactive about what is happening world wide and switch to renewable energy sources. What the company did was a deliberate attempt to cheat.
- Grit_dogDec 29, 2023Navigator
lol. So much professed knowledge of a topic with so little info available….
You know someone in the know at Cummins or the EPA or something?
- Grit_dogDec 27, 2023Navigator
I agree, almost guaranteed that’s what happened. It’s just the leading language in the article. And the 99% bs part, is, like some of you may have experienced, I experience it regularly, some govt spec/law/mandate has some hurdle or infeasible almost impossible requirement that is of no real world benefit, even a detriment quite often, and “you” are required to work around it or solve the problem for the cheese dicks that enacted the rule/law/mandate….
And then just once in a while, the entity that was stupid and unreasonable to begin with, actually realizes it and may actually correct their errors, but “you” are still left holding the bag for all the expense incurred to “your” private company.
I’m not anti emissions by any means….lol (don’t look at my truck too hard….) I’m just anti stupidity as I’ve dealt largely with government contracts my entire career. And it’s a constant battle between good and practical vs the opposite.
That’s why I said earlier, it’s simply pay to play. Not a crime, no one was killed or even damaged emotionally. It’s just financial risk and responsibility.
too many try to assign some moral value to things like this. Generally only those who are woefully ignorant or those who think they hold some greater purpose of tryin to control others.- Grit_dogDec 27, 2023Navigator
Yes it’s a large financial hit, on the surface. Like roughly equal to a years profit. But it’s not that cut and dry. It will be appealed and battled out in court and behind closed doors as well.
whatever….just need to remember to NEVER take my ‘16 Ram to a dealer now.
They might neuter it and turn it into a lamb not a Ram! lol- FishOnOneDec 30, 2023Nomad
Pretty sure cummins agreed to pay the $1.7B