1/2 ton Tundra pulling 8200 lbs

[fourwinns6]

I inherited my father's Beautiful 30' Blackstone TT,I have pulled it maybe a dozen times with my paid for 2007 Tundra which seem's to pull and brake it just fine.But I get grilled all the time at Rv park's that I should get something bigger like a 3/4 ton truck to be safer on the roads.Which I cannot afford, I have WD bars, Anti-friction control sway bars and my trip's are usually under a 100 miles one way.So far so good but I am always wondering do they really know the difference or is it that's just the way they always have done it???My payload is over 2000,the TT is 7500 lbs dry with a tongue weight of 750.I rarely fill the 76 gallon water tank but when I do the Tundra climbs well and doesn't seem to hinder it at all.It is rated to be capable of pulling 10300 lbs,Heck it can pull a space shuttle LOL but seriously am I just foolish or is it a hazard waiting to happen 😉

[12thgenusa]

W.E.BGood wrote:

12thgenusa wrote:
From 2007 owner's manual: double cab, 5.7L, long bed, 4x2 drive is 1455, and 4x4 is 1365. Check your driver door post sticker, then weigh. D

Hey Dave, my '08 data shows payload @ 1655 for the 4X2 5.7 long bed double cab in SR5/Limited and Tundra grade, and tow rating of 10,500. Wonder what the difference might be?

No idea, but the 2007 long bed only came in SR5 grade. I like the 2008 numbers better.:)

[W_E_BGood]

12thgenusa wrote:
From 2007 owner's manual: double cab, 5.7L, long bed, 4x2 drive is 1455, and 4x4 is 1365. Check your driver door post sticker, then weigh. D

Hey Dave, my '08 data shows payload @ 1655 for the 4X2 5.7 long bed double cab in SR5/Limited and Tundra grade, and tow rating of 10,500. Wonder what the difference might be?

[12thgenusa]

From 2007 owner's manual: double cab, 5.7L, long bed, 4x2 drive is 1455, and 4x4 is 1365. Check your driver door post sticker, then weigh. If your 8200# is correct, you will be right at the GVWR with driver, passenger and not much else in the truck. Most likely fine on the GRAWR.

Mine handles an 8200# fifth wheel very nicely but I don't have the sway issues associated with a long TT. I'm slightly over the GVWR but under the GRAWR. Over 4 years and 10,000 miles towing this combo, mostly in Colorado mountains.

If your weights check out ok to your satisfaction, just learn to grin and nod your head a little at the naysayers. Drives 'em crazy.:D

[W_E_BGood]

I have the full dealer brochure for my '08 Tundra, the specs of which are the same for the '07 as far as I know (before they went to SAE J2807).

Payload ratings as follows:
5.7L 4X2 REGULAR cab SR5 with 8'1" bed...1,990 lbs.
5.7 L 4X2 REGULAR cab Limited w/Maximum Payload Package 8'1" bed...2,065.

In 4X4 versions, the numbers are 1,925 and 2,000 lbs. respectively.

Anybody want anymore numbers?
Regards, BGood

[BurbMan]

Don't blame ya one bit. We could talk about this all summer, the only way to know where you stand is to pack the rig and roll across the scales. Truck empty, truck with trailer attached then trailer axles.

My guess is that you are overweight on the GVWR by some amount on the truck, but since it drives OK probably not enough to be over the axle/tire ratings and be a serious safety issue. Again only way to know is to hit the scales.

[fourwinns6]

My 07 Tundra is the extra cab long bed,I thought the manual stated 2045 lb payload but could be wrong.As for it's capability I was very impressed,just was wondering if there is going to be that much of a difference towing that big of a TT with a 3/4 ton domestic truck.This truck is paid for and the 95% of time I'm not towing with it I really enjoy it.I may average 8 mpg towing through the hill's but on flat highway I have had close to a 11 mpg on average.My brother in law promises that all day with his Dodge 2500 but man I don't want another truck payment

[DiskDoctr]

herbhofmann wrote:
I really didn't intend to compare anything. I simply wanted to point out that the Tundra is more capable that many think. I did say that one always needs to make sure that everything is within the weight limits.

Tundra capabilities wouldn't surprise me. Heck, my 4Runner is rated at 7300lbs towing with WDH.

It handles our 5k GVW just fine. If it didn't have the aerodynamics of a brick, it wouldn't hardly know it was there.

900 lbs more for the Tundra? By extrapolation, I can believe it 🙂

[herbhofmann]

herbhofmann wrote:

Camperluver43 wrote:

herbhofmann wrote:
My first TV was a 1989 Suburban 1/2 ton pulling a 4,000 pound trailer. It was a nightmare. It became "ok" once I added a sway bar but it still felt like I was pulling a sled instead of a trailer. When the transmission gave out in 2007, I found a 2002 Tundra with 26,000 miles on it. It's 4.7L engine had more horsepower and torque than the 5.7L Suburban and weighed 500-1000lbs less. I couldn't hardly tell I had the trailer behind me!

Your comparing a 1989 to a 2002, a lot had changed in regards to power output and technology in engines in those years. On top of that as you mentioned, your Tundra weighed nearly 1,000 lbs less. Same power from an engine will always push the lighter vehicle easier.

herbhofmann wrote:
American vehicle manufacturers have always over sold their vehicle's capabilities, whether mpg, mph or towing capacity. the foreign manufactures tend to understate and let their customers be pleasantly surprised.

No they haven't, they all domestic or foreign use whatever number is better to advertise their products. Your comparing apples to oranges with your vehicles.

As for being overweight, its no big deal about getting going or stopping, its when the camper starts swaying and tosses your truck into the ditch upside down that the issues begin. (not saying that is going to happen, but it does happen)

I really didn't intend to compare anything. I simply wanted to point out that the Tundra is more capable that many think. I did say that one always needs to make sure that everything is within the weight limits.

My comment about foreign vs. domestic manufactures was based on 35 years experience working as a technician at dealerships that sell both foreign and domestic vehicles. I can't "prove" my conjecture, it's just something I've notice over the years. IN GENERAL, the foreign manufactures would rather have happy customers for life than sell one vehicle and never get them back for another one. Just saying...

[herbhofmann]

Camperluver43 wrote:

herbhofmann wrote:
My first TV was a 1989 Suburban 1/2 ton pulling a 4,000 pound trailer. It was a nightmare. It became "ok" once I added a sway bar but it still felt like I was pulling a sled instead of a trailer. When the transmission gave out in 2007, I found a 2002 Tundra with 26,000 miles on it. It's 4.7L engine had more horsepower and torque than the 5.7L Suburban and weighed 500-1000lbs less. I couldn't hardly tell I had the trailer behind me!

Your comparing a 1989 to a 2002, a lot had changed in regards to power output and technology in engines in those years. On top of that as you mentioned, your Tundra weighed nearly 1,000 lbs less. Same power from an engine will always push the lighter vehicle easier.

herbhofmann wrote:
American vehicle manufacturers have always over sold their vehicle's capabilities, whether mpg, mph or towing capacity. the foreign manufactures tend to understate and let their customers be pleasantly surprised.

No they haven't, they all domestic or foreign use whatever number is better to advertise their products. Your comparing apples to oranges with your vehicles.

As for being overweight, its no big deal about getting going or stopping, its when the camper starts swaying and tosses your truck into the ditch upside down that the issues begin. (not saying that is going to happen, but it does happen)

[12thgenusa]

The point is that the OP never specified what configuration he has except to say that he thinks the payload is over 2000. Everything else in this thread is speculation.

[2012Coleman]

12thgenusa wrote:

2012Coleman wrote:

12thgenusa wrote:

2012Coleman wrote:
Payload on a 2007 Tundra is more like 1605 - no way its "over 2000 lbs"

Depending on the model, engine, bed size, and options the payload can be between 1150 and 2045. Towing capacity can be between 4800 and 10600. Source: Owner's manual.

Please tell me what model has a payload of 2045. Been doing research on a new TV and have not seen this in the Tundra lineup. BTW, my post concerned the OP's TV which he stated was a 2007 Tundra. I didn't contest his towing capacity.

Yeah, 2007 same as mine.

2007 Reg cab, 5.7L, 2-wheel drive, long bed--2045 lbs.

OK - but the fact that this is a regular cab puts this off the radar for me, and I'm guessing most others who have families. I believe one of the 1/2 ton Rams also has a high payload, but also in a reg cab configuration only.

[12thgenusa]

2012Coleman wrote:

12thgenusa wrote:

2012Coleman wrote:
Payload on a 2007 Tundra is more like 1605 - no way its "over 2000 lbs"

Depending on the model, engine, bed size, and options the payload can be between 1150 and 2045. Towing capacity can be between 4800 and 10600. Source: Owner's manual.

Please tell me what model has a payload of 2045. Been doing research on a new TV and have not seen this in the Tundra lineup. BTW, my post concerned the OP's TV which he stated was a 2007 Tundra. I didn't contest his towing capacity.

Yeah, 2007 same as mine.

2007 Reg cab, 5.7L, 2-wheel drive, long bed--2045 lbs.

[Camperluver43]

herbhofmann wrote:
My first TV was a 1989 Suburban 1/2 ton pulling a 4,000 pound trailer. It was a nightmare. It became "ok" once I added a sway bar but it still felt like I was pulling a sled instead of a trailer. When the transmission gave out in 2007, I found a 2002 Tundra with 26,000 miles on it. It's 4.7L engine had more horsepower and torque than the 5.7L Suburban and weighed 500-1000lbs less. I couldn't hardly tell I had the trailer behind me!

Your comparing a 1989 to a 2002, a lot had changed in regards to power output and technology in engines in those years. On top of that as you mentioned, your Tundra weighed nearly 1,000 lbs less. Same power from an engine will always push the lighter vehicle easier.

herbhofmann wrote:
American vehicle manufacturers have always over sold their vehicle's capabilities, whether mpg, mph or towing capacity. the foreign manufactures tend to understate and let their customers be pleasantly surprised.

No they haven't, they all domestic or foreign use whatever number is better to advertise their products. Your comparing apples to oranges with your vehicles.

As for being overweight, its no big deal about getting going or stopping, its when the camper starts swaying and tosses your truck into the ditch upside down that the issues begin. (not saying that is going to happen, but it does happen)

[2012Coleman]

12thgenusa wrote:

2012Coleman wrote:
Payload on a 2007 Tundra is more like 1605 - no way its "over 2000 lbs"

Depending on the model, engine, bed size, and options the payload can be between 1150 and 2045. Towing capacity can be between 4800 and 10600. Source: Owner's manual.

Please tell me what model has a payload of 2045. Been doing research on a new TV and have not seen this in the Tundra lineup. BTW, my post concerned the OP's TV which he stated was a 2007 Tundra. I didn't contest his towing capacity.

[12thgenusa]

2012Coleman wrote:
Payload on a 2007 Tundra is more like 1605 - no way its "over 2000 lbs"

Depending on the model, engine, bed size, and options the payload can be between 1150 and 2045. Towing capacity can be between 4800 and 10600. Source: Owner's manual.