10 year rule for PP tank certification delayed

[ScottG]

Looks like the 10 year rule may not happen after all. At least if has been delayed.
The story

[TenOC]

camperfamily wrote:
They do check them. And around here its real hard to find someone to re-cert them.

2X in Nashville

[352]

mobeewan wrote:
actually increasing the pressure test to 10 years instead of 7 wouldn't really benefit anyone's pocket since you could go longer without buying a cylinder. I believe it has to do with some administrative beuracract who didn't like the numbers 12 & 7 and like to use multiples of 5 so they don't get confused and decided to change the regs without consulting the petroleum gas industry experts. The same oganzation that always gives input regarding the regs and changes to the regs. They are the ones challenging the changes without their input. Apparently DOT agreed they should have been consulted and are now back peddling.

Cornfusioning. Please elaborate.

[mobeewan]

actually increasing the pressure test to 10 years instead of 7 wouldn't really benefit anyone's pocket since you could go longer without buying a cylinder. I believe it has to do with some administrative beuracract who didn't like the numbers 12 & 7 and like to use multiples of 5 so they don't get confused and decided to change the regs without consulting the petroleum gas industry experts. The same oganzation that always gives input regarding the regs and changes to the regs. They are the ones challenging the changes without their input. Apparently DOT agreed they should have been consulted and are now back peddling.

[352]

aftermath wrote:

#1nobby wrote:

352 wrote:
Use a cheap Harbor Freight engraver. $1.99. Engrave BT1400a212019 or any other combination of numbers and I bet you they will fill it. Just make sure the last numbers are a future date.

What a great idea! Next you can change the manufactured date of your trailer tires!

And with a little practice you can roll back your odometer too!

They sell them at Harbor Freight too.

[Atlee]

Why was the re-certification time frame shortened from 12 years to 10 years? Has anyone read of a rash of tanks failing with catastrophic results with the LP bottles between year 10 and year 12? I certainly haven't.

My guess is some group that stands to benefit financially from the move from 12 years to 10 years was behind the proposed change.

Most regulations are caused either by pressure from a political group, or by a group that will benefit financially from regulatory change.

[rbpru]

It is easy to exchange out old tanks and I have never been checked. The old tank goes back into the re-fillers system, where it is re-certified, refilled and sent to their LP selling base.

I look at it as the service they supply for the rather high price they charge. It is obvious they do not pay much attention to the condition of the tank's paint or rust, just put a tank sized shrink wrap label on it and send it back into the system.

[Campinfan]

The Tractor Supply stores by me always check. They also said when they get old, take them to BLue Rhino and exchange it and get a newer tank.

[mobeewan]

mike-s wrote:

352 wrote:
Use a cheap Harbor Freight engraver. $1.99. Engrave BT1400a212019 or any other combination of numbers and I bet you they will fill it. Just make sure the last numbers are a future date.

So you have a cylinder which is good to the 19th day of the 20th month of 2021?

Not exactly. The recertification marking is 5 digits.

The first 4 are the month and year. The last is a letter.

E for first visual inspection good for 5 years, ex. 0817E.

I'm not sure but I believe F is used for the second visual inspection which is good for an additional 5 years, ex. 0817F.

S for pressure test good for 7 years, ex. 0817S.

IIRC the visual inspection can only be done twice in the lifetime of the cylinder. Then it might be time for a pressure test or a new cylinder. I never got that far with a cylinder yet.

[Dave5143]

The place I take mine to always checks the date. Three years ago they expired and I took them to the local U-Haul place for re certification. It wasn't a big deal and given today's deregulation mania I'll stick to the old certification standard. I happen to believe it was put in place for a good reason.

[Ralph_Cramden]

#1nobby wrote:

352 wrote:
Use a cheap Harbor Freight engraver. $1.99. Engrave BT1400a212019 or any other combination of numbers and I bet you they will fill it. Just make sure the last numbers are a future date.

What a great idea! Next you can change the manufactured date of your trailer tires!

LOL, and with a good HP multi function you can buy a bundle of USDA / APHIS certified bug free kiln dried wood, copy the label, and bundle and dry your own at the push of a button. Or get really creative and run off some money.:B

[aftermath]

#1nobby wrote:

352 wrote:
Use a cheap Harbor Freight engraver. $1.99. Engrave BT1400a212019 or any other combination of numbers and I bet you they will fill it. Just make sure the last numbers are a future date.

What a great idea! Next you can change the manufactured date of your trailer tires!

And with a little practice you can roll back your odometer too!

[_1nobby]

kearlms wrote:
or to a gas station where they don't know much and get it filled and not have problems.

Poorly trained or dumb people can serve a purpose.

[kearlms]

The stations I go to never checked them for the last 12 years that I have lived here. Then this last time I took mine in to fill they looked. Took the attendant about 10 min to find the date then he wrote it down and filled them up. What a pain. I would go to the local Propane dealer, but last time I did that I got some bad propane. Spit and sputter the whole time using it. So go to the pros that give you water filled propane tank or to a gas station where they don't know much and get it filled and not have problems.

[mobeewan]

PDF file of DOT order halting enforcement of new regulations.