2000 F250 7.3 vs 2021 silverado 2500HD payloads.

Jimnlin, no, GM doesn’t beat Ford by an significant amount and hasn’t for 20 years. I’m not saying that an individual truck from one brand can’t beat another individual one. My ‘06 F350 SRW had a 11,400 GVWR.

I'm looking at Fleet Ford weight specs and GM weight specs from GM ordering guide.
Your talking F350 SRW numbers and I posted what GM 2500 trucks numbers were....and yes GM 2500 trucks still kick Fords F250 arzz in GVWR and RAWR specs.
The gvwr/rawr numbers I post are just that. I could care less what others think about them or even if they do or don't use them.

Some one is still stuck in the era when our 3/4 ton and one ton trucks used 16" LT235/85-16 E tires /wheels with 3042 lbs capacity and had a 6080 rawr. Those days are long gone years ago.
Today its not OEM 18"/20" tires as the weak link in our trucks gawr's but most of the time its the mfg OEM wheel ratings or some times std front/rear spring packs.

Are we really going to go through all this EVERY time the topic comes up? I mean what does it take to get a "sticky" around here?

By the numbers:

GVWR is fairly to completely useless number because it is not based on engineering as it is a taxable number.

Payload is a equally useless number as it is the remainder of the posted GVWR minus the weight of the truck. (all the campers weight is going to be on the rear axle.)

RAWR while a seemingly more meaningful number, it is based in the weakest link (lowest) of actual axle, rim and OEM installed tire ratings. Most SRW truck owners will notice that this value equals the number on the sidewall of their OEM tires x2.


In my case, the old 1997 95.8L gas powered F250 had a GVWR of 8800LBS and came with 16" tires and rims. Loaded ready for camping the entire rig weighed ~12000LBS.
Considering the tires+rims I bought it with were woefully under rated I replaced them all with 19.5" Vison Heavy Haulers (rated at 4500LBS) and Toyo M608Z's (rated over 5000LBS).

When I replaced the '97 with a 2017 6.7L (GVWR 10000) and got it setup to carry the camper I weighed the setup and was with in a few 100LBS of the OEM installed max ratings but after a quick 100 mile test drive I found that the sway was almost making me sea sick.

I carry ~4000LBS camper+gear (actual scaled weight) so it was a no brainer to upgrade my 2017 to the same rims+tires setup I had on my 1997. I did notice that the spring pack on the 2017 is weaker than what I had on the 1997 so I had Airbags installed so I could level out the headlights for driving at night.

For reference a quick Google search says that the Sterling 10.5" axle used in modern Ford trucks is rated 9750LBS.


- Mark0

JIMNLIN wrote:
This is where GM kicks Ford and Rams butz.

A 2500 GM truck can be had with a 11550 GVWR and even better is the 6600 RAWR.

I'm with MarkO. If I'm in the market to put a 3/4 ton size truck in commercial service or just need a 3/4 ton truck I look for one with the largest RAWR with a litest unloaded weight which gives the truck the most safe/legal payload for carrying heavy loads in the bed or heavy 5th wheel/GN/pintle trailer hitch loads.
Those payload stickers are based on a gvwr number which can overload some trucks rawr numbers if its all used in the bed.

But its hard to bypass a F250 with the camper or heavy service package or any Ram/GM or Ford one ton SRW trucks.

Only if you believe the numbers.
Bottom line, most any HD srw pickup will be similarly capable in payload.

Jimnlin, no, GM doesn’t beat Ford by an significant amount and hasn’t for 20 years. I’m not saying that an individual truck from one brand can’t beat another individual one. My ‘06 F350 SRW had a 11,400 GVWR.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2006-2/2006-ford-f-250f-350-super-duty-specifications/

This is where GM kicks Ford and Rams butz.

A 2500 GM truck can be had with a 11550 GVWR and even better is the 6600 RAWR.

I'm with MarkO. If I'm in the market to put a 3/4 ton size truck in commercial service or just need a 3/4 ton truck I look for one with the largest RAWR with a litest unloaded weight which gives the truck the most safe/legal payload for carrying heavy loads in the bed or heavy 5th wheel/GN/pintle trailer hitch loads.
Those payload stickers are based on a gvwr number which can overload some trucks rawr numbers if its all used in the bed.

But its hard to bypass a F250 with the camper or heavy service package or any Ram/GM or Ford one ton SRW trucks.

Your 2000 Ford has a Sterling 10.5 rear axle. It’s plenty stout. So is the rest of the truck.
If you just want a new truck that’s one thing, but if you’re considering it just to get more payload you’re not really accomplishing anything.

Word of advice, don't over think it.

Personally for years I hauled campers with a '97 F250. In 2017 I decided I wanted a new truck and got a 2017 F250 to replace the old and tired one.

I never looked at payload numbers on ether.


- Mark0.