2005 2500 HD

[tko9900]

Found a 2500 HD Duramax with 18500 miles on it. Anything I should worry about with so few miles on it? Must have sat a lot. Their asking $34000.

[IdaD]

Grit dog wrote:

tko9900 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Assuming it's well kept, like new garage baby, driven regularly etc, my first reaction is its for sale in CO where weeds legal cause they're high!
But they used diesel market is so far out of wack right now, not even funny and a perfect as new LLY Dmax is only half a step away from the highest regarded pre dpf diesel trucks out there and IMO is almost as good and as refined as any new truck out there.
Late LLY trucks had no big issues I know of. Early ones had a couple things that aren't horrible to remedy.
I personally wouldn't spend that much on that truck but someone may spend close to that. I wouldn't give 30 for it but many would and based on the current market, it will sell for that without much issue.

If $30k ish is the top of your budget and you don't care about warranty or having a truck that is a couple generations behind the current models, then it is not a ripoff at 30.

I get the impression that they don't care if I buy or not. As you say someone will pay what they are asking. First time I've run into I want what I want at a dealer, there's the door, call us when your ready to pay.

And they probably don't, because good low mile diesels are hard enough to find as it is. Now take a darn near holy grail model that is pristine in the middle of the rust belt where half the 05 pickups are now 2 tone rust and paint and I wouldn't expect a dealer to budge either.

I've been searching more than casually to find a replacement for my 07 and the deals are not there. I never buy new vehicles. (Well one in 2001) and if I want to replace my truck in the near future, it will be a new one as those are actually the best value currently when comparing to newer low mile used.

Just for kicks I did a search on Autotrader for all used 2014+ Ram 2500 and 3500 diesels within 100 miles of Boise. I got 28 results. Average price was $46k+, and only two were less than what I paid for my truck brand new in June 2015 ($39,375). The cheapest was $37k and change with 28,000 miles, and the other was $38k and change with 38,000 miles. Granted prices would drop more as you get a bit older, but then you get into the old frame/suspension and more emission issues.

Unless you go way back, buying a used diesel truck is a tough proposition these days compared to new. I needed a crew cab with 4wd which is the most popular configuration so that obviously hurt my cause. If you can be more flexible in terms of configuration I suppose a deal may be easier to find.

[tko9900]

Grit dog wrote:

tko9900 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Assuming it's well kept, like new garage baby, driven regularly etc, my first reaction is its for sale in CO where weeds legal cause they're high!
But they used diesel market is so far out of wack right now, not even funny and a perfect as new LLY Dmax is only half a step away from the highest regarded pre dpf diesel trucks out there and IMO is almost as good and as refined as any new truck out there.
Late LLY trucks had no big issues I know of. Early ones had a couple things that aren't horrible to remedy.
I personally wouldn't spend that much on that truck but someone may spend close to that. I wouldn't give 30 for it but many would and based on the current market, it will sell for that without much issue.

If $30k ish is the top of your budget and you don't care about warranty or having a truck that is a couple generations behind the current models, then it is not a ripoff at 30.

I get the impression that they don't care if I buy or not. As you say someone will pay what they are asking. First time I've run into I want what I want at a dealer, there's the door, call us when your ready to pay.

And they probably don't, because good low mile diesels are hard enough to find as it is. Now take a darn near holy grail model that is pristine in the middle of the rust belt where half the 05 pickups are now 2 tone rust and paint and I wouldn't expect a dealer to budge either.

I've been searching more than casually to find a replacement for my 07 and the deals are not there. I never buy new vehicles. (Well one in 2001) and if I want to replace my truck in the near future, it will be a new one as those are actually the best value currently when comparing to newer low mile used.

They came down $100. I told them I pass on this one. I'II keep
looking. Someone else can fork out $34k for it. If I had offered $20k they probably would have walked me to the door.

[Grit_dog]

STANG23L wrote:
One major issue with 03-05 duramax's were the injectors. There was a recall on them. My dads 04 went through 4 sets in the first 150K, all were covered. The last set they finally fixed the problem with the injector itself and took the truck from 150 to 260K miles when he sold the truck. Its still running around today.

Other than that truck was pretty bullet proof.

O' and that is way to much for an 05'. Sure some one may come up with the cash. But I would not. In my opinion I'd be willing to pay 20-24K. For a low mileage rust free WI truck.

The issues were on the LB7 trucks with an extended warranty issued on all models.
04.5 and up never got the ext warranty iirc and by then, the only issue was the same one as all Bosch high pressure injectors of that era. They are sensitive, over time, to proper filtration that frankly neither GM nor Dodge provided.
Concern? Yes
Reason not to buy a LiLY Dmax? No way.
With that low of miles, unless it slugged some water, the injectors are of little concern, but after learning my lesson on my 07, I'd get additional 2 micron filtration and then a lift pump on that DMax and be a happier camper for a long time.
And if you'd be willing to only spend low 20s on a super low mile, as new diesel pickup of pretty much any flavor, then you more than likely will never be driving one.......until the economy takes a dump again combined with oil way over $100 a barrel. And even then, you'll have to pay more.

[Grit_dog]

tko9900 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Assuming it's well kept, like new garage baby, driven regularly etc, my first reaction is its for sale in CO where weeds legal cause they're high!
But they used diesel market is so far out of wack right now, not even funny and a perfect as new LLY Dmax is only half a step away from the highest regarded pre dpf diesel trucks out there and IMO is almost as good and as refined as any new truck out there.
Late LLY trucks had no big issues I know of. Early ones had a couple things that aren't horrible to remedy.
I personally wouldn't spend that much on that truck but someone may spend close to that. I wouldn't give 30 for it but many would and based on the current market, it will sell for that without much issue.

If $30k ish is the top of your budget and you don't care about warranty or having a truck that is a couple generations behind the current models, then it is not a ripoff at 30.

I get the impression that they don't care if I buy or not. As you say someone will pay what they are asking. First time I've run into I want what I want at a dealer, there's the door, call us when your ready to pay.

And they probably don't, because good low mile diesels are hard enough to find as it is. Now take a darn near holy grail model that is pristine in the middle of the rust belt where half the 05 pickups are now 2 tone rust and paint and I wouldn't expect a dealer to budge either.

I've been searching more than casually to find a replacement for my 07 and the deals are not there. I never buy new vehicles. (Well one in 2001) and if I want to replace my truck in the near future, it will be a new one as those are actually the best value currently when comparing to newer low mile used.

[STANG23L]

One major issue with 03-05 duramax's were the injectors. There was a recall on them. My dads 04 went through 4 sets in the first 150K, all were covered. The last set they finally fixed the problem with the injector itself and took the truck from 150 to 260K miles when he sold the truck. Its still running around today.

Other than that truck was pretty bullet proof.

O' and that is way to much for an 05'. Sure some one may come up with the cash. But I would not. In my opinion I'd be willing to pay 20-24K. For a low mileage rust free WI truck.

[CampingN_C_]

It's only worth what someone will pay them. When I sold my 2005 2500HD gasser I looked all over for the same truck with the Duramax. Most that were in good shape were in the upper 20's to lower 30's.
KBB and NADA don't accurately represent what these trucks are going for lately.
For me personally I couldn't see dropping 32 on a 12 year old truck when I could drop 42 on a brand new one, and I wanted a 2006 HD very bad.

[DustyR]

campigloo wrote:
I would be terribly afraid of a truck that old and so few miles on it. When oil isn't sloshing around in it things rust. When it's not run seals harden and become brittle. It includes every component of the truck; tranny, differentials, power steering and brakes, not just the engine.

X-2
Time and inactivity are the major factors on a vehicle setting idle. The price they are asking is near the discounted price that unit wouldhave sold for new. Walk away.

[1971duster340]

2005+ LLY's are in high demand. I never had any of the temp. problems and have only had to replace the water pump. 138K miles now. It's a '05 3500 SRW crew cab long bed. I used it to pull a 9200# TT for about 45K miles and other trailers.

[kaydeejay]

tko9900 wrote:
Found a 2500 HD Duramax with 18500 miles on it. Anything I should worry about with so few miles on it? Must have sat a lot. Their asking $34000.

High retail value on that truck is under $25K. I know, I just sold one with 30,000 miles on it and I did a LOT of research.
Hold out for a 2006 LBZ - 6-speed transmission and a stouter engine.
Some will tell you the '05 LLY had overheat problems. A few did. If you get the seller down to a sensible price you might want to see if it had the GM fix applied. This involved a 2006 aircleaner drawing air from under the fender vs the original that pulled hot air from behind the radiator.
I also agree with the poster who suggested changing the turbo mouthpiece.

[tko9900]

Grit dog wrote:
Assuming it's well kept, like new garage baby, driven regularly etc, my first reaction is its for sale in CO where weeds legal cause they're high!
But they used diesel market is so far out of wack right now, not even funny and a perfect as new LLY Dmax is only half a step away from the highest regarded pre dpf diesel trucks out there and IMO is almost as good and as refined as any new truck out there.
Late LLY trucks had no big issues I know of. Early ones had a couple things that aren't horrible to remedy.
I personally wouldn't spend that much on that truck but someone may spend close to that. I wouldn't give 30 for it but many would and based on the current market, it will sell for that without much issue.

If $30k ish is the top of your budget and you don't care about warranty or having a truck that is a couple generations behind the current models, then it is not a ripoff at 30.

I get the impression that they don't care if I buy or not. As you say someone will pay what they are asking. First time I've run into I want what I want at a dealer, there's the door, call us when your ready to pay.

[FishOnOne]

campigloo wrote:
I would be terribly afraid of a truck that old and so few miles on it. When oil isn't sloshing around in it things rust. When it's not run seals harden and become brittle. It includes every component of the truck; tranny, differentials, power steering and brakes, not just the engine.

My parents 05 Duramax has ~56k miles and no problems with it sitting in the garage most of the time.

[Grit_dog]

Assuming it's well kept, like new garage baby, driven regularly etc, my first reaction is its for sale in CO where weeds legal cause they're high!
But they used diesel market is so far out of wack right now, not even funny and a perfect as new LLY Dmax is only half a step away from the highest regarded pre dpf diesel trucks out there and IMO is almost as good and as refined as any new truck out there.
Late LLY trucks had no big issues I know of. Early ones had a couple things that aren't horrible to remedy.
I personally wouldn't spend that much on that truck but someone may spend close to that. I wouldn't give 30 for it but many would and based on the current market, it will sell for that without much issue.

If $30k ish is the top of your budget and you don't care about warranty or having a truck that is a couple generations behind the current models, then it is not a ripoff at 30.

[KD4UPL]

My '05 crew cab Dually with D/A and 4wd only cost about $36,000 new. If that's an LT they're crazy. I'd guess you could by a truck 5 years newer for that kind of money.
My '05 has been a great truck. Probably the most trouble free vehicle I've ever owned and I don't really have much trouble with any of them. Mine has 214,000 miles on it. Just about all of them were hauling and/or towing something; sometimes off road.

[salem]

I used my 05 D/A as a trade-in on a new 2016 in April. My 05 had 65,000 miles it. (yes, you read that right, 65,000) I got rid of it because of the LLY overheating issues. I checked the dealer's inventory list a week or so later and they had the truck listed at $30,000 It was a short bed.