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astraelraen
Explorer
Jun 06, 2014

2007 Nash 27e

We are (probably) going to get this trailer and I am just looking at opinions.

Tow vehicle is a 2013 F150 crew cab 157" wheelbase with ecoboost 3.73 gears/max tow. Payload capacity is just under 1600lbs.

Dry weight of the trailer is 6000lbs even by the sticker inside the trailer. It is about 29' long according to the brochure I found online, I have not measured it with a tape measure. The GVWR is 10k lbs but we won't load it anywhere near that. I figure we will put probably 1000lbs of stuff/ propane / batteries in it.

The last trailer we owned was about 24/25' long and dry weight was probably 3500/4000lbs, so this is a "big" step up for us.

The Nash is a "wide body" as well, it is 8' 6" wide.

Thanks for your opinions.

Here is a link to the brochure I found:
http://www.rvusa.com/specbase/pictures/%7BC41545BD-0C14-4ACD-8DA1-4D9D39021DF9%7D_lit.pdf
  • _DJ_1's avatar
    _DJ_1
    Explorer II
    Jun 10, 2014
    brulaz wrote:
    If you have any problem, it will be with the tongue weight of the trailer overloading your truck's GVWR (Payload), hitch receiver rating (probably 1150# with WDH?) and/or rear GAWR (4050#?).

    For some reason all my trailers have had over 15% of the trailer weight on the tongue when loaded, despite catalog ratios of only 12-13%. My current 7500# loaded trailer has about 1100# tongue weight and I'm right at the truck's weight limits even with a >2000# payload.

    It tows fine, but I have to be careful loading the truck and trailer to stay at or under my limits. You may end up in the same place if the tongue weight of that Nash is upwards of 15%.


    Nash is very well balanced. My 23D is 7000# GVWR vs the OP's 7700#. Loaded and ready to go my tongue weight is 850# and that is with a 150# generator on the tongue. (I have a Sherline Tongue Scale.

    OP - dump those tires. I bought a new '10 F 150 along with a new Springdale 18' TT. The P rated tires were very squirrely. After a trip to Les Schwab for LT's it was fine. They even gave me $ for my old tires.
  • brulaz's avatar
    brulaz
    Explorer
    Jun 10, 2014
    n7bsn wrote:
    brulaz wrote:
    If you have any problem, it will be with the tongue weight of the trailer overloading your truck's GVWR (Payload), hitch receiver rating (probably 1150# with WDH?) and/or rear GAWR (4050#?).

    For some reason all my trailers have had over 15% of the trailer weight on the tongue when loaded, despite catalog ratios of only 12-13%. My current 7500# loaded trailer has about 1100# tongue weight and I'm right at the truck's weight limits even with a >2000# payload.

    It tows fine, but I have to be careful loading the truck and trailer to stay at or under my limits. You may end up in the same place if the tongue weight of that Nash is upwards of 15%.


    Northwoods works hard to balance the loaded weight of their rigs via the location of tanks and storage.
    But you can often shift weight off the hitch by how you load the rig, at least to a degree


    On my old trailer I attached a tow bar to the frame and carried our bikes back there. That actually helped quite a bit, but the trailer was only 4000# loaded and had a small pass-thru.

    The Nash and our new Timber Ridge are much heavier trailers and much of the weight distribution must be built into them. Hopefully the Nash is not as bad as our Timber Ridge 240RKS.

    As well, the 240RKS has a huge pass-thru just begging for stuff to be put into it. Plus I'd love to add a couple more golf-cart batteries to the tongue. I've already moved the smaller heavy stuff (tools mostly) to the rear kitchen cabinets. And put the solar panels behind the axles. But if anything, I suspect the tongue weight will just get heavier.
  • n7bsn's avatar
    n7bsn
    Explorer
    Jun 10, 2014
    brulaz wrote:
    If you have any problem, it will be with the tongue weight of the trailer overloading your truck's GVWR (Payload), hitch receiver rating (probably 1150# with WDH?) and/or rear GAWR (4050#?).

    For some reason all my trailers have had over 15% of the trailer weight on the tongue when loaded, despite catalog ratios of only 12-13%. My current 7500# loaded trailer has about 1100# tongue weight and I'm right at the truck's weight limits even with a >2000# payload.

    It tows fine, but I have to be careful loading the truck and trailer to stay at or under my limits. You may end up in the same place if the tongue weight of that Nash is upwards of 15%.


    Northwoods works hard to balance the loaded weight of their rigs via the location of tanks and storage.
    But you can often shift weight off the hitch by how you load the rig, at least to a degree
  • brulaz's avatar
    brulaz
    Explorer
    Jun 07, 2014
    If you have any problem, it will be with the tongue weight of the trailer overloading your truck's GVWR (Payload), hitch receiver rating (probably 1150# with WDH?) and/or rear GAWR (4050#?).

    For some reason all my trailers have had over 15% of the trailer weight on the tongue when loaded, despite catalog ratios of only 12-13%. My current 7500# loaded trailer has about 1100# tongue weight and I'm right at the truck's weight limits even with a >2000# payload.

    It tows fine, but I have to be careful loading the truck and trailer to stay at or under my limits. You may end up in the same place if the tongue weight of that Nash is upwards of 15%.
  • nvreloader's avatar
    nvreloader
    Explorer
    Jun 07, 2014
    Astraelraen,

    Drop in at the home base for Northwoods RV's, See info here:

    afnash.com

    Tia,
    Don
  • NashTT's avatar
    NashTT
    Explorer
    Jun 06, 2014
    The choice of the Nash is a good one IMHO, as long as the condition is OK. One thing in my experience though---my dealer weighed mine for me before delivery.
    Hitch weight 420lb listed 600 actual
    Trailer weight 4552 listed 5440 actual

    Never was a big believer in weighing your rig unless there was a problem, but I am now.
  • n7bsn's avatar
    n7bsn
    Explorer
    Jun 06, 2014
    You look in rating then
    Years back, when I had a set of "light" tires, I got a pair of heavy tires for the rear, on cheap steel rims and swapped them in when I had to tow.

    I'd never argue with a good used Northwoods product. Our last one was two years old when bought and 10 years later we sold it.
  • astraelraen's avatar
    astraelraen
    Explorer
    Jun 06, 2014
    GVWR is 7,700lbs
    GCWR is 17,100lbs
    Tow rating is 11,100 lbs.

    It has P rated tires, I may upgrade to LT, but the tires only have 12k miles so I'm kinda hesitant to "waste" them.

    Payload & braking are really my two biggest concerns. I live in Idaho we have mountain passes everywhere :)
    I think I'm probably good otherwise.
  • n7bsn's avatar
    n7bsn
    Explorer
    Jun 06, 2014
    What's the Combined Vehicle weight of the F150, what's the Tow rating? Both should be in the manual

    The difference between a Nash and an Arctic Fox (for that year) is the wood used in the cabinetry, the framing and that's just about it. (As I recall they had gone to Filon on all Nash's by that year)

    These are HEAVY rigs, well built, but really heavy. I would not be surprised that the trailer (loaded) would exceed the ratings of the F150.
    A thousand pounds is about right, for a weekend (including water). But low for a family of four for a two week vacation

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