2013 break down for truck sales.

IllinoisCheesehead wrote:

BB_TX wrote:
It does seem that Ford offers the best advertised discounts off MSRP though.

The key word there may be "advertised" because when I was shopping to replace my quickly failing 2005 F-350 6.0 PSD, the Ford dealers could not touch the discounts off MSRP I was able to find on my Ram 3500. Even with Ford X-Plan pricing through work, the F-350 6.7 was a good $5-6K over a nicer equipped Ram 3500 6.7.

Perhaps I should have said "Ford dealer" advertised discounts. When I bought my 2012 the Ford dealer was advertising $14,000 off MSRP (sticker), well below invoice, and that is what I got, no questions asked. Other Ford dealers said they would match it. And other local Ford dealers routinely advertise similar large discounts off MSRP.

NC Hauler wrote:

APT wrote:
Ram has highest % of HD diesels 80-85%. I expect that to go down a little with the 6.4L now. Ford is about 75% PSD and GM about 65%. I find it interesting given the GM 6.0L is the weakest for several years.

Agreed, the 6.0 is nowhere near as stout as the 8.1L...I had an 8.1, (496), and though it never met a filling station it didn't like, that was a stout engine...You'd think they could have worked with it....Hated to see that one go.

My friend has a 8.1 towing a 21 ft trailer and I have a 7.3 PSD towing a 31 ft 5er. He does fine in the flat but when we get to the hills its see you later Im gone.

BB_TX wrote:
It does seem that Ford offers the best advertised discounts off MSRP though.

The key word there may be "advertised" because when I was shopping to replace my quickly failing 2005 F-350 6.0 PSD, the Ford dealers could not touch the discounts off MSRP I was able to find on my Ram 3500. Even with Ford X-Plan pricing through work, the F-350 6.7 was a good $5-6K over a nicer equipped Ram 3500 6.7.

When I bought my truck in Feb of 2010 Ford gave me a better price and a higher trade in value than GM, by a few thousand dollars all together. I was trading in a GM and had owned GM's for my prior two trucks. Didn't matter as they no longer wanted me as a customer and they made that perfectly clear. By the way the same truck was still on their lot in July at a discounted price.

workhardplayharder wrote:
The ton designation is accurate. Modern trucks will carry a 1/2. 3/4 or 1 ton payload using the Metric Military Standard Conversion. :h

Funny

Any of you guys serve in the Army far back enough to remember the old Dodge M880 5/4 Ton ("five quarter")



And of course the venerable M151A2 Jeep, designated 1/4 ton

I find it interesting, I think they modified some details. I was too busy yesterday to capture.

"We used several sources for this sales data, including our Cars.com dealer network database. To be technically correct, the sales figures we present here are "approximations" (albeit a very close approximation) based on this collected data." I believe that they disclosed more sources yesterday, but probably did not have licensed approval to use the data.

As for very close, I would have to disagree. (Although I can not disclose.)

mtofell1 wrote:
Wow, Ford sells a lot of trucks!!

.......... I just don't understand the huge Ford sales (and I have owned several Fords and would gladly purchase another one).

It is brand loyalty, but not blind brand loyalty. Ford built up a huge fan base over the years and most people stay with what they have been happy with unless something makes them look elsewhere. It does seem that Ford offers the best advertised discounts off MSRP though.
For the first 25 years I bought/drove nothing but Chevys. Great cars and trucks that I had very few problems with.
Then the local Chevy dealer made me mad. Went over to the Ford dealer to look around. Liked what I saw and bought one. Now have bought/driven nothing but Ford cars/trucks for the last 27 years. All (even two 6.0 diesels) have been virtually trouble free. No reason to change. Would prpbably still be driving a Chevy but for that one salesman.
They are all so close now in lo0ks, reliability, features, and creature comforts that few people change brands without a good reason. All in what you are happy with and what looks and style appeal to you.

Wow, Ford sells a lot of trucks!!

I'm totally brand blind and enjoy shopping all of them when I'm looking for a truck. I recently bought a Ram (2500) but looked at the Fords closely. I don't understand what the appeal is. Their diesels have a shaky track record at best and their gas engines get worse MPG and have less power than the Ram.

About 6 years ago when I was looking at trucks the Ford was hands down the winner for interior styling and such but things have certainly changed. Ram trucks are arguably on par interior wise. Chevy/GMC seems a bit outdated for now but will likely catch up. I just don't understand the huge Ford sales (and I have owned several Fords and would gladly purchase another one).

Sinnettc wrote:
Personally I wouldn't have split the GM twins. But then Ford wouldn't have had such a huge advantage. Maybe some bias in the reporting?

The twins are usually separated in the monthly combined truck sales also. The only thing I like about them being separate is to see how much gain/loss GMC compares to Chevy. Not that it matters, but I like seeing which people prefer.

Personally I wouldn't have split the GM twins. But then Ford wouldn't have had such a huge advantage. Maybe some bias in the reporting?