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kzspree320
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Dec 04, 2015

2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel

I now have a 2008 Ram 2500 with 6.7 Cummins. It tows great but I want a new truck. I am retired and live in the Baton Rouge suburban area. What that means is a lot of short 1 -3 mile trips without many longer ones. I have an Edge Insight so I can see when the truck starts regenerating, which is a lot. I live near the interstate and spend at least 30 minutes a week just driving to let the truck complete a regeneration. A gas truck would be better for me the 90% of the time when not towing, since it is my daily driver. I have a fifth wheel 34' long, 10,600 empty and 12,000 almost exactly per the CAT scales ready to camp.

I am considering a 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD with 6.0 gas, 4.10 axle and 6 speed. I have towed with gas before and fully understand that gas engines create power when climbing grades above 4,000 RPM. I have read more reviews in the last few weeks than I ever thought I would. It seems many people tow 10K plus and are happy with this engine, while about the same amount towing the same weight hate the engine. I know this configuration (2WD crew cab short bed) meets the new J2807 standards for 2016 at over 21K GCWR (almost 15K towing). Truck has about 3,300 lbs of payload, which is more than enough.

The gas truck weighs empty almost the same as my quad cab Cummins. I know my GCWR will vary between 18,800# and 19,100# ready to camp. This is well under the 2015 20,500# GCWR. I live in Louisiana, so about 50% of the towing time is flat land, 30% of time is rolling hills in southeast US, and 20% of time is mountains (I like the Rockies and Smokies).

I really value the input of members towing over about 10K with this truck. Please give me any towing input, good or bad, when towing. Yes, I know to expect 6-9 mpg towing and overall 12-13 mpg. If that's off, please let me know.

So how well does the engine, transmission and axle ratio perform when you are between 80-90% of the trucks tow ratings?

I know the diesel is best when towing, but this truck is a daily driver 80-90% of the time.

Thanks. Keith
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  • Greene728's avatar
    Greene728
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    Dec 17, 2015
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    kzspree320 wrote:
    motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

    deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.


    I "had" a gas burner. 2012 F-250 with the 6.2 and 3:73 rear end. It was a fine and capable truck that gave me zero problems other than terrible gas mileage. I had been in a diesel since 2004 when I bought/traded for the gas burner back in January for all the reasons you stated.

    At the end of October after towing my fiver and gooseneck for the season I now have the truck in my signature. Yep, that's only 9 months. Hope this helps! Lol
  • Hybridhunter's avatar
    Hybridhunter
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    Dec 16, 2015
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    Dave H M wrote:
    Well here goes some apples and oranges.

    I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

    This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

    maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

    The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

    If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new horse.


    All else being equal I think we'd agree we prefer a more capable truck that "struggles" less. Turbo's on anything will do that.
  • Majja13's avatar
    Majja13
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    Dec 16, 2015
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    I have the truck you are talking about exactly. I love it but I came form a 2000 1500 gasser, and never have never owned a diesel. My TT is a bit smaller at only 6700 on the scale and I hardly know it is behind me. I have only towed 2 times with the truck as I have only had it since September. But one of those two trips was a 350 long trip. Got in the truck set the cruise at 62 and let her go. YOu are pretty correct on the MPG's as to what I am getting here, although you may see a little better since you are at sea level and I live at 4700 ft. I am using this truck as the DD until my wife gets a new car in a year or so and enjoy driving it every day, and can not imagine having anything else.

    That being said it is up to you on what makes you happy. If you were out here in the wet and climbing the Sierra's and the Rocky's, Dmax, Cummins or Powerstroke would probably be your best option. Several have switched and been very happy, and several have not. Look up some of IB516's reviews on his 6.4 Hemi. Not the exact truck but close.

    Good luck.
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
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    Dec 12, 2015
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    Get the same rig you have now in a 2015. You will regret going backwards to a gas pot. The newer trucks are much better doing shorter trips than your 08 is.
  • kzspree320's avatar
    kzspree320
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    Dec 12, 2015
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    motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

    deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.
  • Dave_H_M's avatar
    Dave_H_M
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    Dec 12, 2015
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    Well here goes some apples and oranges.

    I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

    This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

    maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

    The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

    If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new horse.
  • mtofell1's avatar
    mtofell1
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    I'm towing 8500# with the 6.4 Hemi after an 06 Duramax. It's pretty similar but the Hemi definitely revs higher. The 6 spd transmission gear spacing on the Hemi does pretty much suck. Most of the annoyance can be eliminated by just manually shifting.

    I'm thinking of going heavier with a new RV this year and am somewhat regretting my switch to gas. It's not that the gassers can't do it. The diesel just does it so effortlessly. Without a doubt my next truck will be diesel. Am I totally regretting my purchase? No. I did save about 6K by going gas and the truck is super nice as a daily driver..... and really very good as a tow vehicle. Just not great.
  • Hybridhunter's avatar
    Hybridhunter
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    kzspree320 wrote:
    .....

    Daveandviv - Your rig is very close to what I'm talking about. I've never had a grade I could not pull at 60mph with the Cummins. I was actually on I-70 outside of Denver and know it will pull it at 60. Doesn't mean I would, because a lot of Colorado passes just can't be pulled that fast. While I would expect 30 mph with the Chevy 6.0 on that grade, I would have expected at least 45 mph on the grades in the eastern US, since the lower altitudes have not taken away quite as much HP as the higher CO passes.

    ....
    Thanks to all. Keep the info coming. Keith


    I could be wrong but would not expect that much of a difference. Yes the 6.0 will be down about 100hp on the Eisenhower pass, but 100hp doesn't equate to half the speed. It would really come down to if it can pull 2nd, and that would likely depend on the axle gears. I would guess 45 - 50 mph in that scenario, but I am just guessing as well.
    As an example, my meager 3.7 and very tall trailer shaped like a brick, with the truck maxed out with a quad in the box, had no trouble pulling 60mph to the top. Yes foot to the floor, and engine was revving, but when the hammer is down, it's all about horsepower...But that is the only time I have found a gasser to be wanting. But it wasn't a gas vs diesel thing, it's a turbo vs NA thing anyhow!

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The gas truck weighs empty almost the same as my quad cab Cummins. I know my GCWR will vary between 18,800# and 19,100# ready to camp. This is well under the 2015 20,500# GCWR. I live in Louisiana, so about 50% of the towing time is flat land, 30% of time is rolling hills in southeast US, and 20% of time is mountains (I like the Rockies and Smokies).

I really value the input of members towing over about 10K with this truck. Please give me any towing input, good or bad, when towing. Yes, I know to expect 6-9 mpg towing and overall 12-13 mpg. If that's off, please let me know.

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I know the diesel is best when towing, but this truck is a daily driver 80-90% of the time.

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I am considering a 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD with 6.0 gas, 4.10 axle and 6 speed. I have towed with gas before and fully understand that gas engines create power when climbing grades above 4,000 RPM. I have read more reviews in the last few weeks than I ever thought I would. It seems many people tow 10K plus and are happy with this engine, while about the same amount towing the same weight hate the engine. I know this configuration (2WD crew cab short bed) meets the new J2807 standards for 2016 at over 21K GCWR (almost 15K towing). Truck has about 3,300 lbs of payload, which is more than enough.

The gas truck weighs empty almost the same as my quad cab Cummins. I know my GCWR will vary between 18,800# and 19,100# ready to camp. This is well under the 2015 20,500# GCWR. I live in Louisiana, so about 50% of the towing time is flat land, 30% of time is rolling hills in southeast US, and 20% of time is mountains (I like the Rockies and Smokies).

I really value the input of members towing over about 10K with this truck. Please give me any towing input, good or bad, when towing. Yes, I know to expect 6-9 mpg towing and overall 12-13 mpg. If that's off, please let me know.

So how well does the engine, transmission and axle ratio perform when you are between 80-90% of the trucks tow ratings?

I know the diesel is best when towing, but this truck is a daily driver 80-90% of the time.

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kzspree320 wrote:
motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.


I \"had\" a gas burner. 2012 F-250 with the 6.2 and 3:73 rear end. It was a fine and capable truck that gave me zero problems other than terrible gas mileage. I had been in a diesel since 2004 when I bought/traded for the gas burner back in January for all the reasons you stated.

At the end of October after towing my fiver and gooseneck for the season I now have the truck in my signature. Yep, that's only 9 months. Hope this helps! Lol","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-16T17:36:04.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-16T17:36:04.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":930},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091530","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1048","rawBody":"
kzspree320 wrote:
motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.


I \"had\" a gas burner. 2012 F-250 with the 6.2 and 3:73 rear end. It was a fine and capable truck that gave me zero problems other than terrible gas mileage. I had been in a diesel since 2004 when I bought/traded for the gas burner back in January for all the reasons you stated.

At the end of October after towing my fiver and gooseneck for the season I now have the truck in my signature. Yep, that's only 9 months. Hope this helps! Lol","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091530_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:117086":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:117086","uid":117086,"login":"Hybridhunter","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-08-20T19:25:48.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:117086"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091529":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091529","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091529":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:117086"},"id":"message:2091529","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091529,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091529"},"body":"
Dave H M wrote:
Well here goes some apples and oranges.

I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new horse.


All else being equal I think we'd agree we prefer a more capable truck that \"struggles\" less. Turbo's on anything will do that.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-16T15:19:30.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-16T15:19:30.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":930},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091529","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1057","rawBody":"
Dave H M wrote:
Well here goes some apples and oranges.

I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new horse.


All else being equal I think we'd agree we prefer a more capable truck that \"struggles\" less. Turbo's on anything will do that.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091529_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:378329":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:378329","uid":378329,"login":"Majja13","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-08-25T18:29:56.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:378329"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091528":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091528","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091528":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:378329"},"id":"message:2091528","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091528,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091528"},"body":"I have the truck you are talking about exactly. I love it but I came form a 2000 1500 gasser, and never have never owned a diesel. My TT is a bit smaller at only 6700 on the scale and I hardly know it is behind me. I have only towed 2 times with the truck as I have only had it since September. But one of those two trips was a 350 long trip. Got in the truck set the cruise at 62 and let her go. YOu are pretty correct on the MPG's as to what I am getting here, although you may see a little better since you are at sea level and I live at 4700 ft. I am using this truck as the DD until my wife gets a new car in a year or so and enjoy driving it every day, and can not imagine having anything else.

That being said it is up to you on what makes you happy. If you were out here in the wet and climbing the Sierra's and the Rocky's, Dmax, Cummins or Powerstroke would probably be your best option. Several have switched and been very happy, and several have not. Look up some of IB516's reviews on his 6.4 Hemi. Not the exact truck but close.

Good luck.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-16T11:25:43.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-16T11:25:43.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":931},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091528","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1089","rawBody":"I have the truck you are talking about exactly. I love it but I came form a 2000 1500 gasser, and never have never owned a diesel. My TT is a bit smaller at only 6700 on the scale and I hardly know it is behind me. I have only towed 2 times with the truck as I have only had it since September. But one of those two trips was a 350 long trip. Got in the truck set the cruise at 62 and let her go. YOu are pretty correct on the MPG's as to what I am getting here, although you may see a little better since you are at sea level and I live at 4700 ft. I am using this truck as the DD until my wife gets a new car in a year or so and enjoy driving it every day, and can not imagine having anything else.

That being said it is up to you on what makes you happy. If you were out here in the wet and climbing the Sierra's and the Rocky's, Dmax, Cummins or Powerstroke would probably be your best option. Several have switched and been very happy, and several have not. Look up some of IB516's reviews on his 6.4 Hemi. Not the exact truck but close.

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You will regret going backwards to a gas pot. The newer trucks are much better doing shorter trips than your 08 is.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"158","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-12T09:41:11.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-12T09:41:11.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":945},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091527","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"158","rawBody":"Get the same rig you have now in a 2015. You will regret going backwards to a gas pot. The newer trucks are much better doing shorter trips than your 08 is.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091527_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091526":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091526","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091526":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:117429"},"id":"message:2091526","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091526,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091526"},"body":"motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-12T06:29:26.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-12T06:29:26.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":943},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091526","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"539","rawBody":"motofell1 - I'm afraid I might feel exactly like you with a gasser. That's why I have not been able to convince myself to buy one yet, even though 90% of miles are not towing. IMO unhappiness is when actual towing performance is way less than expectations. I can only pull the trigger on a gasser when I am mentally ready to accept that towing will not be the same. I'm thinking about it.

deltabravo - I have thought about a car, but space considerations in garage and driveway make this not as good an option for me as others.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091526_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:40748":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40748","uid":40748,"login":"Dave_H_M","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-08-11T06:56:39.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:40748"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091525":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091525","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091525":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40748"},"id":"message:2091525","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091525,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091525"},"body":"Well here goes some apples and oranges.

I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new horse.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-12T06:29:24.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-12T06:29:24.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":932},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091525","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"872","rawBody":"Well here goes some apples and oranges.

I tow a 10K fifth wheel with a Ford 6.2 with a 4.30 diffy.

This winter will be my third winter out with the ole ford.

maybe I am over the hill but just don't get it when folks start talking about running 5000 R's on grades. If someone plants his foot on the firewall, sure they will rev that high and they will get to the top of the grade a smidge sooner than me.

The only long grade i do is heading north toward Ashville when i hit the Saluda grade. It is 6% going up and a long pull. I see no reason to get the r's above 4K. I top that one running 45 mph and 4000 rpm and do not remember what gear.

If you don't get all wrapped arond the axle about racing up long grades or living in fear that a rattler will blow by you, you will be fine and pleased with the new 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2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091523"},"body":"I'm towing 8500# with the 6.4 Hemi after an 06 Duramax. It's pretty similar but the Hemi definitely revs higher. The 6 spd transmission gear spacing on the Hemi does pretty much suck. Most of the annoyance can be eliminated by just manually shifting.

I'm thinking of going heavier with a new RV this year and am somewhat regretting my switch to gas. It's not that the gassers can't do it. The diesel just does it so effortlessly. Without a doubt my next truck will be diesel. Am I totally regretting my purchase? No. I did save about 6K by going gas and the truck is super nice as a daily driver..... and really very good as a tow vehicle. Just not great.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-11T18:44:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-11T18:44:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":942},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091523","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"676","rawBody":"I'm towing 8500# with the 6.4 Hemi after an 06 Duramax. It's pretty similar but the Hemi definitely revs higher. The 6 spd transmission gear spacing on the Hemi does pretty much suck. Most of the annoyance can be eliminated by just manually shifting.

I'm thinking of going heavier with a new RV this year and am somewhat regretting my switch to gas. It's not that the gassers can't do it. The diesel just does it so effortlessly. Without a doubt my next truck will be diesel. Am I totally regretting my purchase? No. I did save about 6K by going gas and the truck is super nice as a daily driver..... and really very good as a tow vehicle. Just not great.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091523_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:131892":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:131892","uid":131892,"login":"LowRyter","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-01-21T10:38:44.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:131892"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091522":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091522","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091522":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:131892"},"id":"message:2091522","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091522,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091522"},"body":"I think I'd keep the Cummins and save the money.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"48","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-11T17:53:33.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-11T17:53:33.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":942},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2091504/message:2091522","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"48","rawBody":"I think I'd keep the Cummins and save the money.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2091522_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091521":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2091521","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2091521":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:117086"},"id":"message:2091521","revisionNum":1,"uid":2091521,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2091504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2091504"},"subject":"Re: 2015 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0 Gas and 12K fifth wheel","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2091521"},"body":"
kzspree320 wrote:
.....

Daveandviv - Your rig is very close to what I'm talking about. I've never had a grade I could not pull at 60mph with the Cummins. I was actually on I-70 outside of Denver and know it will pull it at 60. Doesn't mean I would, because a lot of Colorado passes just can't be pulled that fast. While I would expect 30 mph with the Chevy 6.0 on that grade, I would have expected at least 45 mph on the grades in the eastern US, since the lower altitudes have not taken away quite as much HP as the higher CO passes.

....
Thanks to all. Keep the info coming. Keith


I could be wrong but would not expect that much of a difference. Yes the 6.0 will be down about 100hp on the Eisenhower pass, but 100hp doesn't equate to half the speed. It would really come down to if it can pull 2nd, and that would likely depend on the axle gears. I would guess 45 - 50 mph in that scenario, but I am just guessing as well.
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kzspree320 wrote:
.....

Daveandviv - Your rig is very close to what I'm talking about. I've never had a grade I could not pull at 60mph with the Cummins. I was actually on I-70 outside of Denver and know it will pull it at 60. Doesn't mean I would, because a lot of Colorado passes just can't be pulled that fast. While I would expect 30 mph with the Chevy 6.0 on that grade, I would have expected at least 45 mph on the grades in the eastern US, since the lower altitudes have not taken away quite as much HP as the higher CO passes.

....
Thanks to all. Keep the info coming. Keith


I could be wrong but would not expect that much of a difference. Yes the 6.0 will be down about 100hp on the Eisenhower pass, but 100hp doesn't equate to half the speed. It would really come down to if it can pull 2nd, and that would likely depend on the axle gears. I would guess 45 - 50 mph in that scenario, but I am just guessing as well.
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