2022 Toyota Tundra Reveal

[FishOnOne]

I can't find the words to describe this thing. :E

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[rjstractor]

Grit Dog wrote:
Yes good points for sure. I still don’t think as a top mfg, I’d kick the “traditional” “big V8” to the curb and only offer 1 “big engine”. If nothing else, even if 99% of the private buyers prefer a more complicated twin turbo V6 (which I don’t think is likely), you are certainly limiting your commercial sales where the “newest and bestest” ( read, more expensive and potentially not as proven) doesn’t win sales.
In 25 years in an industry that buys ALOT of pickup trucks, that industry decidedly does not buy near as many Ecoboost and Turbodiesel trucks as they do good old fashioned old tech, NA V8s.

I think Ford, and now Toyota, sees the writing on the wall in that as internal combustions slowly begin to sunset, direct injected turbo gas engines are replacing more cubic inches as a means to get maximum power and efficiency and lower emissions. Look at Ford's latest hot offerings, the Ranger and Bronco. Any engine type you want as long as it's direct injected with a turbocharger. The Ecoboost in the F150 kicks the snot out of the Coyote V8 in emperical testing and I think Ford sells a lot more of the little boosted V6s than the V8. Even Chrysler is getting on board with that 2.0 turbo in the Jeep line which seems to be a better performing engine than the Pentastar V6. The only code that the small, boosted DI motor hasn't seemed to crack yet is the higher duty cycle HD world, but they are trying like hell, with the Eco V6 now being offered in all models of the Ford Transit. We haven't seen these motors in HD pickups yet, but you know that we will. We just don't have to like it.... 😉

[RoyJ]

Power wise it'll likely blow the 5.7 out of the water at ANY rpm. Big question is would it match Toyota V8s for reliability? Well, they're confident enough to put it into the new Land Cruiser, whose reputation is built on 300 - 500k mile life.

Reliability is one of the few (if not only) reason why any one would buy a Tundra in 2020 / 2021. Other than that the domestics are better in almost every other way.

[Grit_dog]

rjstractor wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table

If the Toyota V6 is anything like the Ecoboost it's not going need to spin high rpms. The Ecoboost makes its peak torque at a much lower rpm than the 5.0, and I expect Toyota's motor will be the same way.

Yes good points for sure. I still don’t think as a top mfg, I’d kick the “traditional” “big V8” to the curb and only offer 1 “big engine”. If nothing else, even if 99% of the private buyers prefer a more complicated twin turbo V6 (which I don’t think is likely), you are certainly limiting your commercial sales where the “newest and bestest” ( read, more expensive and potentially not as proven) doesn’t win sales.
In 25 years in an industry that buys ALOT of pickup trucks, that industry decidedly does not buy near as many Ecoboost and Turbodiesel trucks as they do good old fashioned old tech, NA V8s.

[Geo_Boy]

You would think Toyota would have turbocharged their 4.0 V6 that they use in the Tacoma now.

[noteven]

I used a 3.5 EcoBoost V6 F150 company truck - I liked it.

I figured a V10 EcoBoost version would be a nice tow motor for RV’n.

A 7.3 EcoBoost on gasohol would work too.

[rjstractor]

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table

If the Toyota V6 is anything like the Ecoboost it's not going need to spin high rpms. The Ecoboost makes its peak torque at a much lower rpm than the 5.0, and I expect Toyota's motor will be the same way.

[Bionic_Man]

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table

Problem with the “big V8” is they are always thirsty (especially true with the Toyota 5.7). Turbo engines are more efficient when not worked and you keep your foot out of it (like during EPA testing).

I think it’s a smart move, and an engine they already have in their portfolio on their Lexus line.

[joshuajim]

FUGLY !

[Grit_dog]

FishOnOne wrote:
Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

Link

That’s ballsy, IMO.
I mean, a lot of people like the Ecoboost and it’s definitely a great option, but there are way more “big V8s” sold every year and I think it will hurt tundra sales if the only big engine is a high rpm rice grinder motor. Heck, their 5.7 is powerful and dependable. I’d be slow to take that option off the table

[FishOnOne]

Rumor is Toyota is ditching the V8's and installing a 3.5 twin turbo and perhaps a hybrid configuration.

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[hvac]

Just read the highest brand loyalty on thid planet for vehicles is Subaru and Toyota.
Speaks volumes. Respect is earned.

[NRALIFR]

fj12ryder wrote:
I can't help what I think when I see the Tundra T*RD. LOL Not the best acronym.

Me too neither. I’m just gonna say it with no asterisk:

“Oh look boss, another Tundra TuRD Pro!!! BTW, you feeling the need for a pit stop? I sure am. That burrito grande I had last night wants out!”



:):)

[time2roll]

ShinerBock wrote:
Nissan: We have the ugliest truck.

Chevy HD: No, we do.

Toyota: Hold my beer.

Edit: Oops forgot about the Tesla truck. That thing fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

If this is the new trend in trucks.... Cyber Truck is starting to look better and better.
The old F150 is going to have to keep going a few more years....

[Me_Again]

FishOnOne wrote:
I can't find the words to describe this thing. :E

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Ugly comes to mind!

[noteven]

Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
Nissan: We have the ugliest truck.

Chevy HD: No, we do.

Toyota: Hold my beer.

Edit: Oops forgot about the Tesla truck. That thing fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

And probably stuck like a lawn dart…
Hilarious post!

What shiner and Grit said ^