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Ralph_Cramden
Oct 24, 2018Explorer II
parker.rowe wrote:
I'm not sure how the doors are designed on the new Roos, but my in laws had a Flagstaff Shamrock (same as a Roo) and never had any leakage issues. I believe it was a 2013.
Our Starcraft has a small rain gutter at the top of each bed opening. The doors already have seals and we haven't had any leakage issues. Only way I could see it leaking is if the canvas got closed in the seal...we always check ours.
Hybrid Bunk Door 101 according to Ralph.
There are two types.
* Forest River Design. Used on Rockwood Roo, Flagstaff Shamrock, and Palomino.
* Former Kinro, now Lippert, Secure Lock Bunk Door. Used by Jayco, Keystone, Dutchmen Aerolite/Coleman/Kodiak, KZ, Forest River Surveyor and Coachmen, and everyone else.
With the Forest River design they use a two piece hinge, riveted together, and it will fail eventually, its just a matter of time. If they leak through the seals or not is very much determined by if they were installed correctly at the factory, especially so at the top corners as they are a three piece and butt together at the top. Adding a water deflector above the front door is never a bad idea. Our 17 Roo has not leaked but I did redo one of the seals that I would not accept at the PDI and made the dealer get me the new material. I was not about to trust his flunkies to do it right.
Here is a good example of what Forest River has been known to do to seals when building the rig, this is clear silicone that some moron at the factory put on the door flange after sealing the tent corner, then closed the bunk door, and what it does to the seal when opened, found at the PDI.
BTW, that top seal should of extended at least 3/8" past the side seal.
A rain deflector I had bent out of 18 gauge brake metal, it does not need to be a gutter but simply extend beyond the face of the door with a drip edge so water coming down the front curl does not run into the seal channel.
The Kinro / LCI door has a one piece seal, radius top corners, and the hinge does not use rivits. It's two pieces of extrusion that lock together as a hinge. A much better design and I wish I had the LCI doors on our Rockwood Roo. They are not prone however to problems. If the seal was not originally installed correctly is one, and another is this caulk joing shown below is prone to splitting open. Let that happen and it won't take long before you need a new door. The Kinro / LCI has at least 6 revisions I am aware of since 2008, most having to do with the hinge design and tent attachment method. The J lock molding used to secure the tent can also split in half.
Kinro/LCI door.
2011 Aerolite and 2013 Keystone With LCI doors / 17 Rockwood.
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