Camper helping a camper... Stuck in Mub

jefe 4x4 wrote:
Poole,
Lucky you had a convenient, large vehicle around to pull you out of a stick. Some observations:
1. Good thing you have tow rings on the front. Smart move. On many trucks these are optional. It looks like the rear can use a clevis or 'D' ring into the receiver hitch; another winching attachment point. This is one issue that many fail to appreciate until the stick happens: winch or strap points.
2. With what looks like 19.5, 10 bolt wheels with, and high weight rated street truck tires you won't get much traction in mud or snow. Not that it would help with that much weight even on duals, especially at that angle. With deflatable tires I have gotten out of a mub bog or two by deflating down to about 32 pounds and engaging the sidewall biters.
3. Looking at the shoulder in the pic, I also would have pulled over as the surface looks dry and solid.
4. A 60" high lift jack is not as good a fit with a TC as one might think. It's only 7K pounds rated. You have a flat bed, and that might be a way to lift one side or the other, but most of us with p.u. beds are confined to the front end only as a lift point. Considering the weight; not worth it. A jack board and a 12 ton bottle jack is a down and dirty alternative.
5. a high capy winch IS the 100% effort.....IF you have an anchor to hook it to. For your heavy TC, i suggest an 18,000 pound winch and a custom built carrier. Why? The rule of thumb for sizing a winch to your vehicle is: 1-1/2 times the vehicle weight. Mine is 10K pounds, so a 15K pound winch.
6. Everyone should carry at least a 4"W, 20 foot, 30K pound tow strap (with end loops) with several size 'D' rings for solid connection to your tow hooks...or tow some other heavy TC out of the mub.
7. I"m not sure if you have a limited slip rear end on that truck. I upped the traction ante by installing a Dana 80 Power Lok rear and Detroit/Eaton torque biasing Dana 70 True Trac front limited slip diffs, and it has worked out very well in snow, mud, and sand.
You did everything right and got very lucky, for someone who covets solitude.
Thanks for posting.
jefe

Jefe,
Thank you so much for the tips...

That was really what I was looking for, as to what the "Options were" from the Pros... heheh, those who covet solitude, I am just good at getting "Lost"... I am a "Pro" at that, both buggy riding and camper driving, heheh...

I'll look into all the above, that's a great help. I was surprise that in 4-low, that the other 3 tires, dry surface, wouldn't be able to pull it out with help, but with the angle and surface 'slickness' (fine dirt, sand) not so surprised.
They didn't seem to make any diff that I could see. Correct on the 19.5 OEM upgraded to OEM traction, heheh, but they just spin and not what I would consider "Traction" types but they are on the list. No side Traction to speak of.

I had the tow straps, short and long, and that's what we used to hook up to the front ring. I do have have a D-ring? but not sure if it'd fit the back hitch, will look into that one now.

The Differential is OEM, but thought it was the limited Slip? I went with all the 'heavy duty' options I could then ordering the truck.

I thought the Warn winch cap was at 16.5k but I'll look for a higher one, non- Warn?

Recommendations would be appreciated.
Also, recommendations on the "Winch Anchors"

heheh, as having a winch, won't do much good if there's nothing to hook it to.. other than the proverbial "Skyhook", which are hard to find, LOL..

The traction boards/mates, noted above, look to have been about the only other solution that I can see. After much digging and "Hoping" that it didn't sink further (and tip over?) to get them under or close to other the affected rear wheels and then try a pull out... dunno...

Hi-lift jack, as noted above, would have be "Iffy" at best and dangerous at the least... not sure how that would have worked in this scenario, guessing it wouldn't and would have been dangerous to try to use. I'll put that on the back burner for now.

So, just to recap what "I am seeing" under this scenario, no real options other than a tow with an anchor or digging out and using mats and Hoping it would not sink deeper.

Traction mats might have worked, all 4 wheels, after digging out.

If anyone has any other thoughts that would help, me, but more for the community, would be helpful.

thanks all...

Shying away from those 'Way Outta the Way places' until I get prepped up correctly... although, this place, Flaming Gorge - Anvil WY, isn't considered "Way out places" which makes it more dangerous as one feels "It's all good".. hehheh..

Thanks...