Since I'm asking the question, I think I know the answer (it's probably no) but let's run thru the match and see how much over I am and how big of a deal is it to be over. Here is my stats on my trailer 3650lbs on the stickerI'm trying to do this with a 2007 3500lbs tow capacity ford explorer, 2" aftermarket hitch is installed as well as 7 pin and brake controller.

According to the data, you are over the tow rating of the Explorer.

Undercover Poe wrote:Since I'm asking the question, I think I know the answer (it's probably no) but let's run thru the match and see how much over I am and how big of a deal is it to be over. Here is my stats on my trailer.Your vehicle's tow rating of 3500 lbs doesn't mean you can tow a trailer weighing that much as you have to factor in the weight of people and cargo also in the vehicle. With such a limited tow rating you really need to be looking at a trailer no more than about 2500 to 2700 lbs dry ... this trailer you've highlighted has a stickered UVW of 3650 lbs so the answer isn't "probably no" but unquestionably no.Keep in mind also that when towing any full height trailer it's not just about weight but also the effect significant wind resistance will have on your vehicle at highway speed, with the most obvious proof being fuel mileage that will typically drop 50% or more from what you get when not towing. You either need more tow vehicle or if you insist on towing with this vehicle stick with a low profile trailer such as a popup which won't suffer anywhere near as much wind resistance as will a travel trailer.

Well, if we use 4680 lbs. as the camping weight of your TT, your tongue weight is going to be 468 to 702 lbs. If we use 13% as the average, the tongue weight is 608 lbs.Since the weight limit of most class IV hitches is 500/5000 lbs., you'll be over the 500 lb. limit without a WDH. Now you need to determine the cargo capacity of your Exploder. On the driver's door pillar is a sticker that says "Cargo and passenger weight should not exceed ____ lbs.". Subtract the 608 tongue weight plus 100 lb. WDH (708 lbs) from this number. The number that is left is what you can safely carry. If your passenger weight, food, fuel, ect., weigh more than this number, you'll have to leave somebody behind or get a smaller TT or get a bigger tow vehicle.

Undercover Poe wrote:Since I'm asking the question, I think I know the answer (it's probably no) but let's run thru the match and see how much over I am and how big of a deal is it to be over. Here is my stats on my trailerI'm trying to do this with a 2007 3500lbs tow capacity ford explorer, 2" aftermarket hitch is installed as well as 7 pin and brake controller. Umm.. No, not gonna happen.The unladen weight alone IS already 100 lbs OVER your "tow rating", not to mention if you add in propane and water as they did on the sticker you are now at 3,948 lbs..Then add in your food, drinks, clothing, pots and pans, bedding and any other items you are WAY over your 3,500 lbs..And that is totally ignoring your CARGO/PAYLOAD that may be available for your vehicle (which I can assure you that you ARE WAY, WAY over).You need to ignore the supposed 3,500 lb tow rating and find out your vehicles cargo rating.Newer vehicles have a big yellow sticker on the drivers door post which will clearly state the cargo rating.If you don't have that you need to find the vehicles unladen weight and the vehicles GVWR.Subtract the unladen weight from the GVWR and the result is cargo weight.Then subtract the driver and passengers weight, FULL tank of fuel and any other items you put into your vehicle.The left over result is the max tongue weight your vehicle can handle.Once you find the remaining cargo weight you divide that by .15 (which is 15% tongue weight) and the result is the absolute max towing weight you can have without going over the cargo weight of the vehicle (tongue weight becomes "cargo" to the vehicle).Example, say you have 200 lbs of left over cargo for the vehicle..Divide 200 by .15 and you get 1,333 lbs as you MAX amount you can tow..Typically when they give a 3500 lb tow rating they are assuming tongue max of 350 lbs.. 350 dived by .15 is 2,333 lbs.So really that supposed 3,500 lb tow rating is out the door..When ever I see a vehicle with a 3,500 tow rating a know it was not put there to pull a heavy trailer.. It was put there to allow you to pull small light trailers..Sorry to burst your bubble, but you NEED to find a trailer the weights HALF the unladen weight of this one but to be certain you NEED to find or calculate the max cargo of your vehicle after deducting anything you put into the vehicle.

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MFL
Nomad II
Jun 10, 2016
Very nice rig OP! That truck and trailer are made for each other. :)

You may have a little trouble with the Gold Wing in the short bed. JK

Jerry
westend
Explorer
Jun 10, 2016
Congrats!
Undercover_Poe
Explorer
Jun 10, 2016
OP here, I can't wait to try out my new tow rig, no more being overweight with the explorer. And I can take one of my Hondas if I want to
Undercover_Poe
Explorer
May 13, 2016
OP here. I did the camping trip just once with my explorer and went right back to truck shopping. Just pick up this 03 f-150 for $9,500 with taxes, plates and title out the door. Now I can tow 7,100 lbs
Undercover_Poe
Explorer
Apr 07, 2016
I might look into trans cooling and limp by with the explorer till the right truck pops up
Undercover_Poe
Explorer
Apr 07, 2016
TSeck wrote:
If your considering a Diesel, spend some time on this site. Go to Youtube and search "Powerstrokehelp". Great info on what to look for and what to stay away from. I went through the same issues with a GMC Sierra many years ago. Bought my Excursion and never looked back. Out of all my cars and trucks (I have six) its my favorite. According to my mechanic, with 190K on the clock she's just now broke in.
. Yeah, that's the word on the 7.3l. It's fords crown jewel. I'm envious. In fact the world seems to know this because the 7.3s don't come up and when they do they are gone.
TSeck
Explorer
Apr 07, 2016
If your considering a Diesel, spend some time on this site. Go to Youtube and search "Powerstrokehelp". Great info on what to look for and what to stay away from. I went through the same issues with a GMC Sierra many years ago. Bought my Excursion and never looked back. Out of all my cars and trucks (I have six) its my favorite. According to my mechanic, with 190K on the clock she's just now broke in.
westend
Explorer
Apr 06, 2016
I have basically the same truck. I pull a 6K lb trailer with ease. With an '03 you won't get a five or six speed transmission nor a three valve cylinder alignment. I believe in '04 they started putting in the Ford brake controllers, also. Mine does fine without the stated improvements but they are improvements. I have 185K on the clock.
Atlee
Explorer II
Apr 06, 2016
Do you mean 5.4L? If it's the 5.4L Triton, I'd be hesitant to get that engine in an F350. That's the same engine I had in my old 2005 F150. The engine is a great motor, but it's a little under powered, compared to the V10 or 6.0 Power Stroke diesel.

See if you can find either a F250 or F350 with the V10 engine. That'll give all the power you need.

Undercover Poe wrote:
Op here again. Today I went and looked at this 03 f-350
This one was more than half what the diesel
One cost it has the gas 5.7l I believe. What are your
Guys thoughts? I going to test drive it on Saturday
Undercover_Poe
Explorer
Apr 06, 2016
Op here again. Today I went and looked at this 03 f-350
This one was more than half what the diesel
One cost it has the gas 5.7l I believe. What are your
Guys thoughts? I going to test drive it on Saturday

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