After 30+ yrs., this week I tried something new with amazing results, I rolled out just enough fabric that would fit on the roller. The difference is you, have resistance being on the roller and can apply elbow grease without your fabric moving away from your sponge,brush,or whatever you use. Granted you only get 6-12 inches at a time, but it makes a big difference in your results. Having something to push against made all the difference in the world. Cleanest I've ever gotten it in all these yrs.,looks brand new. I used diluted Fantastic scrubbing bubbles,and a kitchen sponge with a scouring pad on one side for the tuff spots. I can't believe it only took 30 yrs. to figure out.