Cost of EV Batteries

Reisender wrote:

propchef wrote:

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time2roll wrote:
Jeff will never live the same life as most of us. I still give credit to making an effort through his company.

Let me know when an oil company executive goes above and beyond what is required to reduce pollution.

If you think that anyone is making electric vehicles to "reduce pollution" than you have been brainwashed. It is about increasing profit. Musk saw a chance to corner a market and make cash money. It isn't about being more Green or Earth friendly... it's only about making the almighty dollar. I promise you that batteries and EV aren't nearly as Green as you may want to believe...

The only ones consistently crying about EVs not being "green" are those who oppose them. I don't see EV owners bragging about "saving the environment." There are many legitimate reasons to buy an EV without even discussing anything "green."

Musk went WAAAYYYY out on a limb developing his cars. Prior to Musk electric cars were only slightly larger and safer than the common golf cart. No one (read: major manufacturers) was investing serious time or money to develop EVs. Musk knew that to be successful, an EV has to equally match the ICE it's replacing. Same comfort, safety, range, capacity, cup holders and sunroof and price levels. The Model S was an industry game changer, the Model 3 solidified his place in the market. It was only after Musk proved it could be done that the big boys got in with serious research. Everyone is now playing catch-up, although the Germans are close on his heels. Capitalism at it's finest.

EVs are fast, fun to drive, cheap to operate and have very low levels of maintenance. The "green" argument (to me) always falls flat becuase the oil industry has more than 100 years of poor behavior practices to reflect on. I don't think we'll pollute the Gulf of Mexico with a lithum spill.

Yep. Up until EV's nobody gave a carp about mining. Now its the devils work. Good thing ICE vehicles are made out of wood and the catalytic converters are made out of hemp or they would be doomed. :)

Well that’s totally untrue. EVs are still in their infancy. And less than 10 years ago only a couple glorified golf carts existed. But mining regulation and limitations have been increasing dramatically, at least for the 30 years that I’ve been an adult and working for companies that are part of the mining industry.
Mining and logging regs largely crippled the economy of the upper Midwest decades ago. With no chance of recovery. A home I built 22 years ago in NW WI lost 1/3 of its initial assessed value by the time I sold it a few years ago. Why? The economic base for the entire region was shot about dead 30-40 years ago.