Mar-12-2022 05:07 AM
Mar-12-2022 04:51 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:
Not sure what you think as negative about having on board tanks, they are not a negative but a positive since you do not have to come up with some external tote, tank or bucket to mess around with.
Mar-12-2022 04:42 PM
Roadtech wrote:
The shower is connected to the trailer in a unique way so as to provide a dry bath without taking up the space of a separate bath and shower. I think a lot of folks would love a dry bath/shower arrangement in a sub 20 foot trailer without sacrificing the square footage to get it.
Mar-12-2022 02:49 PM
Mar-12-2022 02:45 PM
Roadtech wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:
Very few people wish to have a outdoor tent shower or deal with composting or cassette toilets or a complete lack of on board water systems.. Very few people want barebones minimalist accommodations for one or two people, in other words RVs are typically built for family use and will have things that make the family comfortable while out camping. Minimalist camping isn't what mainstream public wants and the big manufacturers understand that and they tend to concentrate on broader market appeal which will sell more and at a faster rate.
My design has all of the comforts and amenities of my previous 27' Airstream International Serenity, just in a smaller package with some very innovative ideas learned over a lifetime of RV'ing. The shower is connected to the trailer in a unique way so as to provide a dry bath without taking up the space of a separate bath and shower. I think a lot of folks would love a dry bath/shower arrangement in a sub 20 foot trailer without sacrificing the square footage to get it. There are no composting or cassette toilets in my plan (Google dry flush toilets). I have an on board water system to supply and collect water to/from the sinks and shower (hot and cold), just without permanent mounted tanks. I think I have some really great, innovative ideas learned over a lifetime to help lessen the negatives with camping in a trailer but retaining the great advantage of un-hitching and having access to your full size tow vehicle for transportation (no other RV system has this advantage in a sub 20 foot configuration). All I need is a company to build it for me...
Mar-12-2022 01:58 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:
Very few people wish to have a outdoor tent shower or deal with composting or cassette toilets or a complete lack of on board water systems.. Very few people want barebones minimalist accommodations for one or two people, in other words RVs are typically built for family use and will have things that make the family comfortable while out camping. Minimalist camping isn't what mainstream public wants and the big manufacturers understand that and they tend to concentrate on broader market appeal which will sell more and at a faster rate.
Mar-12-2022 09:13 AM
Roadtech wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:
But, honestly, you are camping, and you specified 20ft length, save money, time and lost hair and go find a normal travel trailer with a layout you can live with.. There is very little you can do with 20ft in terms of layout as there will be concessions you will have to make to fit it into that footprint..
Basically you will have only enough space for a small bathroom, front or back side door (unless you want a rear opening door), kitchenette, small dinette/twin bed and small couch/full size bed..
I had a 20ft TT, there is not much you can do with spicing that space up to a luxury hotel room..
There is nothing magical with 20ft of space to make it worthwhile for a highly customized one off RV.. I lost a lot of money and personal time on that one although when I rebuilt it, I did a lot of customizing to us and didn't intend to sell it.. People liked it, but were not willing to part with a few thousand more.. Took a long time to sell and lost thousands..
I'm looking for a relatively simple design...no built in tanks, dry flush toilet, outside shower tent, power queen bed lift, lithium batteries, sink, refrig, & microwave only kitchen, no cabinets, no dinette, 12 volt air conditioner. I can't find anything close to this retail. I have owned Airstream and other trailers...at this point in my life, I'm looking for simple and easy...
Mar-12-2022 08:59 AM
Mar-12-2022 07:50 AM
Gdetrailer wrote:
But, honestly, you are camping, and you specified 20ft length, save money, time and lost hair and go find a normal travel trailer with a layout you can live with.. There is very little you can do with 20ft in terms of layout as there will be concessions you will have to make to fit it into that footprint..
Basically you will have only enough space for a small bathroom, front or back side door (unless you want a rear opening door), kitchenette, small dinette/twin bed and small couch/full size bed..
I had a 20ft TT, there is not much you can do with spicing that space up to a luxury hotel room..
There is nothing magical with 20ft of space to make it worthwhile for a highly customized one off RV.. I lost a lot of money and personal time on that one although when I rebuilt it, I did a lot of customizing to us and didn't intend to sell it.. People liked it, but were not willing to part with a few thousand more.. Took a long time to sell and lost thousands..
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