Dealers lots are filling up

[Pbutler97]

Dealers lots around Ohio/western PA are filling up with certain models. Not many heavy duty trucks but I'm seeing a few Chevy and GMC 2500's sit for weeks before being sold and a lot in the pipeline. 1/2 tons are everywhere. Monitoring black book trade and used retail values, they're dropping like a stone. The Dealers I have recently talked to are holding at MSRP on new with one willing to go below MSRP on a 2500 that has been sitting for over 6 weeks. Expect them all to have to start dealing again. Sales are down and dropping. No wonder if you've seen the prices at the grocery store recently and follow the number of companies announcing layoffs or hiring freezes.

[Grit_dog]

Travlingman wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Travlingman wrote:


Please give this dealers name as he might have what I am looking for. I am also interested in these big discounts you talk of.

Just get on Autotrader and see who's offering discounts. Search nationwide and by lowest price for a specific model or keyword and the info appears right in front of you.
This thread is not going anywhere. Especially since the "expert" car dealer has chimed in....

I am wanting to see this dealer that Pbutler97 is talking about. No need to do a search when he has a dealer that has this many vehicles on the lot and is discounting.

Sorry, my bad. I thought you were looking for a truck, not just providing a sarcastic passive aggressive reply to his post...
Carry on!

[monkey44]

Just travelled north on I-75 today... saw several auto-transport trucks heading south ... Two were carrying pickups, one SUV's ... that would be toward Orlando Florida. Same last time out, two weeks ago, same highway, saw several transport trucks heading south. So, some one is getting vehicles.

They were traveling ooposite from my direction across the divided highway, so can't tell you brand, but I think at least one today was Ford PU's ??

[stsmark]

I’ve noticed the lots filling up around here as well. Watching football I noticed a couple of the OEMs were offering finance deals and small rebates, like 1000.00. So they’re seeing the handwriting on the wall also. My friends F350 is still at the Speedway since late Aug.

[FishOnOne]

Grit dog wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:


I missed that part of his quote. Having said that I agree with your statement.

I can google as well as most, and my money is on this information is not
really easily available to find.
Nevermind, who tf cares?

Maybe the car dealer guy has some "inside" numbers to share....those guys always seem to have "a guy" or "a hookup" or some other sales BS...

I recall Shinerbock claimed he had access to this information, but didn't reflect what I've been seeing. I do recall early 2020 right before the craziness started I was looking at some Wranglers and noticed that the Ram trucks on the lot were 50:50 gas vs diesel which is something I've never seen.

[blt2ski]

I've noticed used car dealers have a lot of stock. New dealers both used and new are on the low end. That could be because new dealers only want the cream of used trade INS to sell.

Diesel gas on 25-55 series trucks. Seems to depend upon brand.
Ram trucks are pretty high percentage of diesel. I have seen a reasonable number of 25/35 series rigs with hemi's.
Ford and GM.
Ford is top in the DW C&C rigs, cab and chassis. Depending upon owners, varies on fuel version. Large construction, Kewitt and Atkinson doing the new light rail. Appeared that ALL of the Ford rigs were gas, be the C&C, or SW crew cab pickups. State of WA DOT trucks I saw over last two days, also gas for same versions. Saw one 650 that was gas too.
Smaller construction companies with C&C rigs varied around 50-50. Both for pickups and C&C rigs.
Wrecker/tow rigs, 70-80% Ram Cummins. Rest Ford psd.
Saw a few GM 45/55 trucks. Don't have the visual what to look for to see if G or D fuel. Less than 10% of that size rigs that I saw.
That's my travels around Puget sound from Seattle south to Olympia, west and north to Bremerton to Tacoma.

Marty

[Travlingman]

Grit dog wrote:

Travlingman wrote:


Please give this dealers name as he might have what I am looking for. I am also interested in these big discounts you talk of.

Just get on Autotrader and see who's offering discounts. Search nationwide and by lowest price for a specific model or keyword and the info appears right in front of you.
This thread is not going anywhere. Especially since the "expert" car dealer has chimed in....

I am wanting to see this dealer that Pbutler97 is talking about. No need to do a search when he has a dealer that has this many vehicles on the lot and is discounting.

[cptqueeg]

^^So you don't agree that his info is legit, that's fine, but why denigrate the man and his prior profession? It doesn't help your case at all and is just another step backwards in treating each other w civility and respect.

My guess is he got the current inventory from a trade magazine and can be found w a quick ggl. It stands to reason that real data as opposed to anecdotal evidence would carry the day, but some how facts and reasoning are now just abstract concepts stretched to meet our particular world view.

Normal inventory is roughly 4 million units, and current inventory is just over ONE million. Anyone with a modicum of reasoning ability is going to say vehicles are in short supply YET there may be exceptions. As the buyers psychology turns negative it actually presents a buying opportunity for others in the face of tight supplies.

[Grit_dog]

FishOnOne wrote:


I missed that part of his quote. Having said that I agree with your statement.

I can google as well as most, and my money is on this information is not
really easily available to find.
Nevermind, who tf cares?

Maybe the car dealer guy has some "inside" numbers to share....those guys always seem to have "a guy" or "a hookup" or some other sales BS...

[FishOnOne]

Bionic Man wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Maybe it’s a regional thing, but our local auto dealerships certainly are still very short of inventory.

And I’ll call BS on the 2500 gasser comment. I’ve seen reports in the past from RAM that an astronomical % of their sales were Cummins. And you can see it driving around too. Regardless of brand, if it’s a heavy duty it almost always has a diesel in it.

There was a time when almost all Ram HD trucks were cummins powered, but in the last few years I've seen an increasing trend of Ram trucks with the Hemi badge on the truck and there's no denying that and now I see several every day. I spoke with the guy who was driving this cab and chassis truck about his hemi powered truck. He said that his company was transitioning to hemi's.

You can call BS but we now know Cummins is coming out with gas engines and it must be for a reason.

His statement wasn't that there are more gasser HDs sold today than in the past. I wouldn't argue that.

His statement was that gassers outsell diesel in 2500's "by a long shot".

You are going to claim that as well?

I missed that part of his quote. Having said that I agree with your statement.

[Bionic_Man]

FishOnOne wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Maybe it’s a regional thing, but our local auto dealerships certainly are still very short of inventory.

And I’ll call BS on the 2500 gasser comment. I’ve seen reports in the past from RAM that an astronomical % of their sales were Cummins. And you can see it driving around too. Regardless of brand, if it’s a heavy duty it almost always has a diesel in it.

There was a time when almost all Ram HD trucks were cummins powered, but in the last few years I've seen an increasing trend of Ram trucks with the Hemi badge on the truck and there's no denying that and now I see several every day. I spoke with the guy who was driving this cab and chassis truck about his hemi powered truck. He said that his company was transitioning to hemi's.

You can call BS but we now know Cummins is coming out with gas engines and it must be for a reason.

His statement wasn't that there are more gasser HDs sold today than in the past. I wouldn't argue that.

His statement was that gassers outsell diesel in 2500's "by a long shot".

You are going to claim that as well?

[nickthehunter]

My bad - wrong post

[Retired_JSO]

I have 2 Ford dealerships within 15 miles of me. One has no Super Duty trucks the other has 1 F250XL. Combined, they have 10 F150s, and 2 F150 Lightnings. As of the first of October, there was still close to 30K ford trucks parked at the Kentucky speedway awaiting chips.

[Grit_dog]

And public service message…
Announcing to the world (internet) that you’re a car dealer is sort of like announcing you sell life insurance policies or buy 1 get 3 free c rap on late night TV. It doesn’t boost the average person’s opinion of you.

[PA12DRVR]

New vehicles are still pretty scarce on the ground in Los Anchorage...that being said, the Chevy Dealer (across the street from work) now has about 10 new pickups (1-2 1500's, the rest 2500 / 3500) on the lot vs. 1 at 6 months ago. The Ferd dealer (pass it twice a day) has an increasing # of 150's, maybe increasing 250's 350's, but they were never as low as the Chevy so hard to see if there's been a big increase.

[Grit_dog]

Travlingman wrote:


Please give this dealers name as he might have what I am looking for. I am also interested in these big discounts you talk of.

Just get on Autotrader and see who's offering discounts. Search nationwide and by lowest price for a specific model or keyword and the info appears right in front of you.
This thread is not going anywhere. Especially since the "expert" car dealer has chimed in....