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BertP
Oct 01, 2004Explorer
Bert
gas dump trucks that work for a living are a thing of the past!!
I didn't question that. I just said that there still are some around (and being built) and that is true. The problem I see is that people make a statement that the majority of HD trucks are diesel (which is true) and then infer from that that there is something special about diesels. Somehow, people got it in their heads that 350 diesel HP is the equivalent of 700 gasser HP. That is absolute hogwash. 350 HP is 350 HP regardless of what is developing it. Certainly, a 350 HP Cat C12 will last longer than a 350 HP souped up motorcycle engine, but while both are alive, they will be able to exactly the same amount of work.
It has been stated a few times on these forums that the fuel consumption issue is a wash because if you can't afford the fuel, you shouldn't be RVing. While there is some truth to that, the fact that diesels can get 30%+ better fuel economy than gassers is an important point. It won't make that big a difference to me as an individual on an annual basis, but if I own a company with a few hundred or thousand trucks, that 30%+ translates into millions of dollars per year in fuel costs over gassers. So, which engine do you think I would choose? It's a no brainer. Strictly economics.
Care to name a HD gasser in a pickup that can match the Cummins/Dodge fleet average of 350,000 mi before overhaul ?
JIM
I can't. But what has that to do with the subject line? The fact that the Cummins in a Dodge will last 350,000 miles before overhaul has nothing to do with the fact that it is a diesel and everything to do with the fact that it is a medium duty engine. If the Hemi was designed to the same specs, it would last just as long. But it would also suffer from the same ailment the Cummins has: weight. I have posted a few times that I almost bought a 2003 Dodge 2500 CTD QC Laramie 4X4 but, in spite of the fact that my 1500HD 6.0 gasser fully loaded could handle my 5er with about 600 - 700 lb to spare before GVW, the Dodge would have been a couple of hundred lb over its GVW when the 5er was empty. That's not knocking the CTD, just recognizing the fact that you would have to have a 3500 series Dodge before you could match the payload capability of my 1500HD gasser because of the CTD's weight. I don't doubt that there were probably some other things that added to the weight, but the CTD is quite heavy.
Bert
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