Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[Supercharged]

marty649 wrote:

rdebault wrote:
Well say what you want I know what mileage I get and the computer on the truck doesn't lie. I document every tank of diesel I put in my truck and calc mileage based on the odometer along with the on board computer. So unlike you I have actual proof along with witnesses of course. If you had a early 6.0 powerstroke I can see why you are a little disgruntled. They did have problems in the early years thats why I have a 7.3L...... By the way its a fact that Diesle engines last longer than gasoline engines when they are worked hard. As far as cost of ownership is concerned my diesel has not cost me near what my gasoline truck did. Once again though its only because I was using the gasoline truck to pull cattle trailers and my fifth wheel. If I just drove around town then the gasoline truck would have probably would have the same cost of ownership. The reason it would have been even is the fact that gasoline engines get terrible mileage.... LOL

It just doesn't pass the smell test.

Saying the computer doesn't lie after adding a programmer is like saying Ponie's word is gospel cuz he once drove by a church... just doesn't add up.

[marty649]

rdebault wrote:
Well say what you want I know what mileage I get and the computer on the truck doesn't lie. I document every tank of diesel I put in my truck and calc mileage based on the odometer along with the on board computer. So unlike you I have actual proof along with witnesses of course. If you had a early 6.0 powerstroke I can see why you are a little disgruntled. They did have problems in the early years thats why I have a 7.3L...... By the way its a fact that Diesle engines last longer than gasoline engines when they are worked hard. As far as cost of ownership is concerned my diesel has not cost me near what my gasoline truck did. Once again though its only because I was using the gasoline truck to pull cattle trailers and my fifth wheel. If I just drove around town then the gasoline truck would have probably would have the same cost of ownership. The reason it would have been even is the fact that gasoline engines get terrible mileage.... LOL

Saying the computer doesn't lie after adding a programmer is like saying Ponie's word is gospel cuz he once drove by a church... just doesn't add up.

[Supercharged]

scottz wrote:
My reason for buying gas was simple. I did not want to smell diesel. I did not want to hear diesel. I did not want the extra weight of a diesel engine.

I am satisfied with this choice and would make the same decision if I were to do it again.

I did it for the same reasons, and more, no wet feet anymore, no shaking, no waking up my neighbors.

[rdebault]

Well say what you want I know what mileage I get and the computer on the truck doesn't lie. I document every tank of diesel I put in my truck and calc mileage based on the odometer along with the on board computer. So unlike you I have actual proof along with witnesses of course. If you had a early 6.0 powerstroke I can see why you are a little disgruntled. They did have problems in the early years thats why I have a 7.3L...... By the way its a fact that Diesle engines last longer than gasoline engines when they are worked hard. As far as cost of ownership is concerned my diesel has not cost me near what my gasoline truck did. Once again though its only because I was using the gasoline truck to pull cattle trailers and my fifth wheel. If I just drove around town then the gasoline truck would have probably would have the same cost of ownership. The reason it would have been even is the fact that gasoline engines get terrible mileage.... LOL

[Eeyore66]

8.1 Van wrote:
I have $16,000 extra in my pocket after selling my 2003 6.0 PSD...

Maybe you could invest some of that 16 grand into writing some new and different material to post in this thread.

[Retired_nuke_ET]

Me thinks p(h)onie missed an H when he was registering the name.

[8_1_Van]

Rvndave wrote:
I ignore pony as well as 8.1, they obviously have some kinda chip on there shoulder. It amazes me how some entertain themselves.

Chip on my shoulder ? No, I have $16,000 extra in my pocket after selling my 2003 6.0 PSD and getting an 8.1 van that works out much better for me. But the post by the F250 PSD owner saying he gets 18mpg towing a 5th wheel at 70mph was very entertaing. I think the diesel fumes got to him

[rdebault]

Ponie is just like the liberal PRESS that believes that if they say something long enough people will start to believe it and they (Ponie) can then feel better about their own uninformed and naive decisions. If nobody is willing to continually correct these types of statements then eventually others will start believing then who do we have to blame (ourselves). Look at what’s happened with the new diesel trucks and all the emissions******they have on them now.

[Jumbo_Cranium]

Aww you guys are taking away my fun. LOL

[Rvndave]

I ignore pony as well as 8.1, they obviously have some kinda chip on there shoulder. It amazes me how some entertain themselves.

[blt2ski]

For you folks that are replying to ponies posts....in the last yr, he has made a whopping 44 posts.......43 are in this thread alone!

As Bluenote noted, trollin trollin trollin!

Marty

[Jumbo_Cranium]

ponie wrote:

Jumbo Cranium wrote:

ponie wrote:
It’s the Diesel Regret that I find far too often in RV parks that makes me wonder.

Why are so many elderly gents hating their diesels when young guns think they are the bomb?

You already admitted to making up the quotes from people who supposedly hate their diesels. Remember?

The quotes are true its just the way that I portray the proud diesels owners that gets some fellas.

Here are some of your so called quotes,

"Just like when riding shotgun with the owner of the 7.3L. He acted like I was nuts when I asked doesn't this thing have any more go to get up over the hill? "You will burn it up, that's all the more fuel you can give it or she will overheat dummy" he said."

" “Dat dare truck gets me 25mpg. I can hook up to dat dare 40ft 5th wheel wid mamas entire brass roster collection inside and I don’t even know its behind me. Yes sir boy, I pulled that rig up over (so high it makes you dizzy pass) like it was not even there. Probably would have left the ground at the top had it not been for the sun reflecting off mars and gettin into me eyes. Had to back out of er ya know”.

"“Dat dare truck will run for 700,000 miles without so much as an oil change and when I trade it in I will look to get near what I paid fer her cause everyone wants dat dare diesel”. “Would rather part with me first born over dat dare truck”.

" “Sure I can get 21mpg running mama to the doctors office and the mall, but when I hook to my 12,000 5th wheel I am getting 9mpg. Don’t believe what anyone tells you. The mileage is single digits if you hog into it. I usually try to move between parks at night with less traffic because I don’t like holding up the trucks on the hills. This thing is wonderful in the park and on the two lane, but once you get up the ramp, its kinda, well, ahhh A DOG!”



Yep, those are sure believable quotes all right.

Here is one more of yours that I do believe, its the one where you admit you made all of them up.

In my complete bogus survey spread across RV parks from TX to NY state it appears that 100% of the respondents will not stand behind their diesel dicision

You have zero credibility in the forum. This is kind of like trying to teach a pig to sing. I ain't accomplishing anything and the pig is getiing annoyed.

[bluenote]

Trollin'

Trollin'

Trollin'

[ponie]

I am not smart enough to know how to do that. Many in this thread have pointed that out no?

Its like I have said before. The thread title is diesel verses gas, but the majority only talk about MPG and that is exactly where many diesel owners differ.

I just wish we could talk about all performance measures comparing BBgassers and diesels. More post claiming 28.7 MPG mean nothing when the intended purpose of the trucks in question is pulling large loads cross country.

[LVJJJ]

just never liked the noise or smell of diesels. I know how to maintain and work on gas engines and I'm too old to even care about learning to work on or maintain a diesel. (aren't all you dieselers glad that old Rudolf's last name wasn't Lilly or Pansey, or something like that).