Don't know why these aren't offered here

That is pretty neat. I have a feeling however if an air conditioner was roof mounted it would not be as easy to lift with one hand as shown in the video hehe...

Roy Ken

RoyB wrote:
That is pretty neat. I have a feeling however if an air conditioner was roof mounted it would not be as easy to lift with one hand as shown in the video hehe...

Roy Ken

If the roof is 100 or 120 pounds, and it is spring assist to lift, then you can just install additional spring assist to lift the 97 pound air conditioner. .

Or do what A-Liner does and install a package terminal air conditioner in the counter someplace, and it does not lift with the roof. Look up PTAC and you can see how they are built. While most are 220 volts, you can get them in 120 or find a window air conditioner that does not take in air from the sides, but instead takes in air from the back wall, and blows out the back as well.

It is easy enough to overcome the air conditioner problem.

Fred.

Especially in times of "fuel economy" you would think this would be all the rage. Remember the Hi-Lo and the Hi-Lo fifth wheel?

Trail Manor is bringing out a new trailer that is similar to the HiLO, but really, why not just buy the smallest Trail Manor?

Rise Trailer

Neat trailer, neat video. Looks easy to set up.

This concept was built and sold here, but apparently it wasn't popular enough so they stopped making it.... the 2008 Fleetwood Tacoma. It goes down like a normal popup, but when the top is raised all four sides were hardside instead of canvas. Here's one for sale in IL, with pictures:
A Fleetwood Tacoma for sale on CL
I actually have the sales brochure as a .pdf file on my computer, because I was thinking hard about buying one back then.

The Pennine Artemis only has 74 inches(188 cm) of interior headroom. So it is low through out.

Even a 6 footer could hit his head if a roof Air Conditioner were installed.

A frames are better for standing headroom in the center at least.

rexlion wrote:
This concept was built and sold here, but apparently it wasn't popular enough so they stopped making it.... the 2008 Fleetwood Tacoma. It goes down like a normal popup, but when the top is raised all four sides were hardside instead of canvas. Here's one for sale in IL, with pictures:
A Fleetwood Tacoma for sale on CL
I actually have the sales brochure as a .pdf file on my computer, because I was thinking hard about buying one back then.

Not really, the Tacoma used the Fleetwood crank lift system which was a big negative as lift systems fail. Plus it was very expensive and small for what it was. The camper in the video has a full bed, full enclosed bathroom w/shower, and L-dinette. Much more comfortable than the smaller Tacoma.

But it had the same wall configuration.

I feel it died because of it's expense and cramped interior living.

Using struts instead of the expensive troubled fleetwood lift system, having a bigger box width wise and length wise, and using a side mounted AC system would had made a huge difference to consumers as far as expense and livability.

Nice concept. I wonder what the US price would be.

I almost bought the Tacoma but could not talk myself I to the floor plan. I hear people frequently talk about the Aframe design as cramped but my 6'2" spouse doesn't feel that way. We go in to sit and sleep, not walk around- so it's never noticeable that he can't stand in the corners - that's where the sofa is anyway. When he sits on the sofa or dining bench, the bubble windows give head clearance so there's no need to tilt ones head for fear of bumping it - plenty of head space LoL

It's a mental hurdle. I've had mine a few years and still sit inside and wonder how it feels as roomy as it does when it appears to be so small on the outside. Of course I misplace it next to the big rigs but at least it's protected by those large windbreaker next to me! Haha

If the Pennine were available on the market, I sure would look hard at those! Don't care for the floor plan but like it alot better than the Tacoma!