Door sticker says never exceed 1263 lbs of cargo/passengers.

BenK wrote:
Yep and I'm old enough to remember those days...and...those good old
days never left...

Still get tons of arguments saying that can't be...it's not fair...

I also remember that power windows/lock/seats/etc were not even order-able
back 'then' on a pickup

Heck, even remember a time when the coinage 'SUV' hadn't been invented yet...


That a pickup was the cheapest vehicle you could buy in comparison with
the cars of that day

Sport45 wrote:

ib516 wrote:


2) GM and Ford are/were both liars when it comes to their payload ratings. They each do/used to remove equipment (like bumpers, spare tires, radios, and center consoles) before weighing the truck so they can artificially increase the payload rating.

Maybe I'm too old, but I remember when you didn't get a bumper, jack, radio, a/c, or spare tire unless you ordered them, and many of the folks I knew didn't. The truck would come with a spare wheel and they'd mount a used tire on it for much less than buying a new one from Detroit. Same with bumpers. They'd either move the one form the old truck if it wasn't beaten up too bad or buy (often make) a new one. Didn't see too many trucks with a/c either. Most had the windows rolled down (manually). The way Ford and GM rate their payload may be a throwback to "the good old days".

And if it did have a bumper it would be a silver channel bumper with the dealers name stamped or engraved on it. That truck did not arrive at the dealer with a bumper.

I bought a used 1997 Ford Ranger about 8 years ago. No power windows or locks, no cruise, manual 5 speed, etc... A/C, heat and 4 round tires. I was showing it to my then 21 yr old DD #1. She noticed a knob on the door and asked what that was for. I explained to her that opens and closes the window. She confusingly said "No button??" She tried it and immediately stated "No wonder you always say roll down the window. I never knew why you would say that until now."