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Captain_Skip
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Mar 27, 2015

Dually, 4X4 or 4X2?

Me again....

You've got me convinced that for the size of the camper that I want (AF992/EC990/Lance1050S) that for safety and handling I should go with a dually not a SRW truck.

Now, my next question - 4X4 (I guess on a dually it's 4X6?) or 4X2?

I don't see myself mounting a snowplow on the front of it for winter use. If I'm using the truck and camper in the winter it's going to be somewhere that's above freezing with no snow. When not hauling the camper it will be used for trips to the lumber yard, towing my boat/ATV, going to the dump, etc. With the size of a dually I won't be going off road with it - I've got a Toyota FJ for that. Is 4 wheel drive really necessary on a dually? Ford offers a limited slip differential option and I'm sure Chevy and Ram do too, so I thought that would be sufficient for slippery conditions.

My initial research has me leaning towards a 4X2 dually with a gas engine, not diesel. I don't think the extra $8k for the diesel is worth it and according to what I've found on the Ford website the cargo capacity of the 2 wheel drive truck is higher than the 4X4 version.
I know that resale for a 4X4/diesel will be higher, but I'm the type to keep a vehicle for 8 to 10 years so resale isn't something I'm concerned with.

You guys were a big help on the SRW vs DRW question for the campers I like, what do you think about the 4X4 vs 4X2 question?

Thanks!
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  • Farmerjon's avatar
    Farmerjon
    Explorer
    Apr 03, 2015
    usmcshepherd wrote:
    I'm still suprised that more value isn't accreited to the exhaust brake on the diesels!!! I just descended several thousand feet coming out of southern Colorado and found the exhaust brake invaluable. I hardly didn't use my brakes coming down and had to put my foot into it to maintain speed!!! In mountainous terrain I think the diesel pays for itself for that fact alone!


    I feel the same way about the exhaust brake. That was a big part of why we opted for the 2015 over the 2014. We got our truck in sept. so we had a good selection of both years.
  • usmcshepherd's avatar
    usmcshepherd
    Explorer II
    Apr 03, 2015
    I'm still suprised that more value isn't accreited to the exhaust brake on the diesels!!! I just descended several thousand feet coming out of southern Colorado and found the exhaust brake invaluable. I hardly didn't use my brakes coming down and had to put my foot into it to maintain speed!!! In mountainous terrain I think the diesel pays for itself for that fact alone!
  • BradW's avatar
    BradW
    Explorer II
    Apr 03, 2015
    allygerry wrote:
    Another vote for the 4x4 here, wet grass is almost as slick as ice on a dually.


    Ditto. A 2wd dually with street tires will get stuck on wet grass in your own front yard. You live in Massachusetts? 4X4, no question.


    I like diesels, but I agree that due to all the fed regulations that have been strapped on them; they cannot be justified economically.

    Good luck,
    Brad
  • My_Blue_Heaven's avatar
    My_Blue_Heaven
    Explorer
    Apr 02, 2015
    Still another vote for 4x4. You'll be glad you did. 8K is a lot for the diesel, but I do not regret getting mine, despite the fact that when I bought it in 2000, diesel was cheaper than gas! Remember those days?
  • skipbee's avatar
    skipbee
    Explorer
    Mar 31, 2015
    I haven't ever been asked about weight, it's possible we could be a few lbs over once in a while, it hasn't been a problem.

    Assateague is one of the most outstanding TC experiences imaginable. We have camped in the Bullpen for as much as three weeks, coming off only to dump and for water and supplies, mostly in the fall.

    The Assateague Mobil Sportsfishermans Association, our wonderful fishing club, has been a prime mover in keeping the beach open for all of us. There have been many attempts to close off 4X4 travel there. By working with the officials and offering solutions to their problems, a system that is satisfactory to both us, the public, and the NPS folks, we are all able to fully enjoy this fabulous natural treasure. If you have any inkling of trying the beach bit, DO IT ! And consider joining AMSA. It is not expensive and well worth the effort. See Ya on the sand!
  • ticki2's avatar
    ticki2
    Explorer
    Mar 31, 2015
    skipbee wrote:
    I googled "outer banks over sand driving". All of the rules are there. There was no mention of duallys being banned. Recently there has been a rumor that the NPS at Assateague Island was lifting the dually ban. It was never really explained why the rule existed.


    I noticed the same thing , I wonder when it changed . One thing caught my eye about the rules for Assateague ,there is a 10,000# GVW limit . Since you are familiar with it , is that something they generally enforce ? That would seem to eliminate many TC's , both SRW and DRW .

    VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS: To obtain an OSV permit, vehicles must meet the following specifications: Maximum number of wheels per axle 4 Maximum number of axles 2 Maximum vehicle length 26 feet Maximum vehicle width 8 feet Minimum vehicle ground clearance 7 inches Gross vehicle weight rating may not exceed 10,000 pounds Minimum tire tread width in contact with ground for 2 wheel drive vehicles 8 inches
  • MERC225's avatar
    MERC225
    Explorer
    Mar 31, 2015
    4x4 for sure.

    Much better to have and not need, than to need and not have!
  • skipbee's avatar
    skipbee
    Explorer
    Mar 31, 2015
    I googled "outer banks over sand driving". All of the rules are there. There was no mention of duallys being banned. Recently there has been a rumor that the NPS at Assateague Island was lifting the dually ban. It was never really explained why the rule existed.
  • towpro's avatar
    towpro
    Explorer
    Mar 31, 2015
    skipbee wrote:


    Our primary first reason for a TC was to travel on the deep sand beaches of Assateague Island National Seashore on the Mid-
    Atlantic Coast on the Maryland/Virginia shores. The NPS does not permit duallys on the beaches, so we had to adapt our truck to handle the weight, the SRW rig is a bit more nimble than duallys. We have had no problems with this set-up in all of our adventures.


    I did not know this. Since NPS runs the Outer Banks beaches, I guess this is true down there as well?

    I would love to go back to a dually for weight, and was thinking of 4wd just for the free camping (and fishing) on the Outerbanks Beaches.

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4X4 or 4X2?","id":"message:1680912","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":37,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:106795"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1680912"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1680912"},"body":"Me again....

You've got me convinced that for the size of the camper that I want (AF992/EC990/Lance1050S) that for safety and handling I should go with a dually not a SRW truck.

Now, my next question - 4X4 (I guess on a dually it's 4X6?) or 4X2?

I don't see myself mounting a snowplow on the front of it for winter use. If I'm using the truck and camper in the winter it's going to be somewhere that's above freezing with no snow. When not hauling the camper it will be used for trips to the lumber yard, towing my boat/ATV, going to the dump, etc. With the size of a dually I won't be going off road with it - I've got a Toyota FJ for that. Is 4 wheel drive really necessary on a dually? Ford offers a limited slip differential option and I'm sure Chevy and Ram do too, so I thought that would be sufficient for slippery conditions.

My initial research has me leaning towards a 4X2 dually with a gas engine, not diesel. I don't think the extra $8k for the diesel is worth it and according to what I've found on the Ford website the cargo capacity of the 2 wheel drive truck is higher than the 4X4 version.
I know that resale for a 4X4/diesel will be higher, but I'm the type to keep a vehicle for 8 to 10 years so resale isn't something I'm concerned with.

You guys were a big help on the SRW vs DRW question for the campers I like, what do you think about the 4X4 vs 4X2 question?

Thanks!","body@stringLength":"1468","rawBody":"Me again....

You've got me convinced that for the size of the camper that I want (AF992/EC990/Lance1050S) that for safety and handling I should go with a dually not a SRW truck.

Now, my next question - 4X4 (I guess on a dually it's 4X6?) or 4X2?

I don't see myself mounting a snowplow on the front of it for winter use. If I'm using the truck and camper in the winter it's going to be somewhere that's above freezing with no snow. When not hauling the camper it will be used for trips to the lumber yard, towing my boat/ATV, going to the dump, etc. With the size of a dually I won't be going off road with it - I've got a Toyota FJ for that. Is 4 wheel drive really necessary on a dually? Ford offers a limited slip differential option and I'm sure Chevy and Ram do too, so I thought that would be sufficient for slippery conditions.

My initial research has me leaning towards a 4X2 dually with a gas engine, not diesel. I don't think the extra $8k for the diesel is worth it and according to what I've found on the Ford website the cargo capacity of the 2 wheel drive truck is higher than the 4X4 version.
I know that resale for a 4X4/diesel will be higher, but I'm the type to keep a vehicle for 8 to 10 years so resale isn't something I'm concerned with.

You guys were a big help on the SRW vs DRW question for the campers I like, what do you think about the 4X4 vs 4X2 question?

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usmcshepherd wrote:
I'm still suprised that more value isn't accreited to the exhaust brake on the diesels!!! I just descended several thousand feet coming out of southern Colorado and found the exhaust brake invaluable. I hardly didn't use my brakes coming down and had to put my foot into it to maintain speed!!! In mountainous terrain I think the diesel pays for itself for that fact alone!


I feel the same way about the exhaust brake. That was a big part of why we opted for the 2015 over the 2014. 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I just descended several thousand feet coming out of southern Colorado and found the exhaust brake invaluable. I hardly didn't use my brakes coming down and had to put my foot into it to maintain speed!!! In mountainous terrain I think the diesel pays for itself for that fact alone!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-03T07:57:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-03T07:57:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":531},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1680912/message:1680948","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:61660":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:61660","uid":61660,"login":"BradW","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-10-29T10:40:54.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:61660"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1680947":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1680947","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1680947":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:61660"},"id":"message:1680947","revisionNum":1,"uid":1680947,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1680912"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1680912"},"subject":"Re: Dually, 4X4 or 4X2?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1680947"},"body":"
allygerry wrote:
Another vote for the 4x4 here, wet grass is almost as slick as ice on a dually.


Ditto. A 2wd dually with street tires will get stuck on wet grass in your own front yard. You live in Massachusetts? 4X4, no question.


I like diesels, but I agree that due to all the fed regulations that have been strapped on them; they cannot be justified economically.

Good luck,
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Assateague is one of the most outstanding TC experiences imaginable. We have camped in the Bullpen for as much as three weeks, coming off only to dump and for water and supplies, mostly in the fall.

The Assateague Mobil Sportsfishermans Association, our wonderful fishing club, has been a prime mover in keeping the beach open for all of us. There have been many attempts to close off 4X4 travel there. By working with the officials and offering solutions to their problems, a system that is satisfactory to both us, the public, and the NPS folks, we are all able to fully enjoy this fabulous natural treasure. If you have any inkling of trying the beach bit, DO IT ! And consider joining AMSA. It is not expensive and well worth the effort. See Ya on the sand!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-31T10:55:05.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-31T10:55:05.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":529},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1680912/message:1680944","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:170906":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:170906","uid":170906,"login":"ticki2","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-07-09T15:13:44.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:170906"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1680943":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1680943","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1680943":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:170906"},"id":"message:1680943","revisionNum":1,"uid":1680943,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1680912"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1680912"},"subject":"Re: Dually, 4X4 or 4X2?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1680943"},"body":"
skipbee wrote:
I googled \"outer banks over sand driving\". All of the rules are there. There was no mention of duallys being banned. Recently there has been a rumor that the NPS at Assateague Island was lifting the dually ban. It was never really explained why the rule existed.


I noticed the same thing , I wonder when it changed . One thing caught my eye about the rules for Assateague ,there is a 10,000# GVW limit . Since you are familiar with it , is that something they generally enforce ? That would seem to eliminate many TC's , both SRW and DRW .

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skipbee wrote:


Our primary first reason for a TC was to travel on the deep sand beaches of Assateague Island National Seashore on the Mid-
Atlantic Coast on the Maryland/Virginia shores. The NPS does not permit duallys on the beaches, so we had to adapt our truck to handle the weight, the SRW rig is a bit more nimble than duallys. We have had no problems with this set-up in all of our adventures.


I did not know this. Since NPS runs the Outer Banks beaches, I guess this is true down there as well?

I would love to go back to a dually for weight, and was thinking of 4wd just for the free camping (and fishing) on the Outerbanks 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