F150 Vs F250

[BruteForceNewYo]

So I am torn on which truck to get. I am going to be looking to get a trailer which is a bunk house model. Most of the models I am looking at are GVRW of 10K.

F150 - Max Tow 10,5K and Payload of 2000
F250 Gas - Max Tow 12K and Payload of 3000

I am thinking of 1000 Tongue, 500 Passengers, 500 Cargo. F150 doesn't leave much extra for a tonneau or cap.

Seems like both would tow the trailers I am looking at. Wondering if there are other variables I am missing in my comparison.

I am in NY so the F150 could be plated for passenger vehicle roadways which is a pretty big advantage on a daily basis.

So confused.....any insights appreciated

[rwjejits]

Beautiful truck.

[BruteForceNewYo]

Thanks...It's pretty nice, now to break it in and figure out to work the MyTouch

[dshelley]

BruteForceNewYork, Nice truck and excellent choice. Congrats...

[ib516]

Sharp! Congrats!

[BruteForceNewYo]

Well here is where I ended up after much deliberation and thought. It's a F250 CC SB PSD Lariat.

[katoom400]

MSRP was right about 45k, there was $4500 in rebates, and I also got X Plan (Friends and Family Pricing) thanks to a member on this forum who was a Ford employee and was kind enough to hook me up. He would probably do the same for you....I'll pm you his info if you are interested.

[Powerdude]

BruteForceNewYork wrote:
@Powerdude I don't even see how the F150 can tow the trailer above

You are right.

You're in F250/F350 with a 4.1 rear end territory, if you wanna go gas that is.

Otherwise, F350 diesel. F250 diesel won't have enough payload.

[brulaz]

The "Max Tongue Weight" you are referring to is actually the Max Hitch Receiver weight rating. You can buy replacement hitch receivers for the F250 that go over 2000#.

Doubt if any are available yet for the 2015 HD Payload trucks as don't think they've even started making them. But for regularly towing a 10K TT, I wouldn't do an F150 anyway.

A gas F250 can get you into 3000# payload. If you want diesel and high payload, then you will need an F350.

[BruteForceNewYo]

@katoom400 That makes it even more concerning as that is a lot lower than what the dealer was telling me a 6.2 configuration would be.

[katoom400]

FWIW. I just picked up a 2015 f250 6.2 CCSB 4wd XLT last month for $36k and my door sticker says 2850 lbs payload.

[BruteForceNewYo]

@Powerdude I don't even see how the F150 can tow the trailer above

[Powerdude]

Right now, a crew cab F250 is cheaper to buy than crew cab F150, roughly same options, if you go build and price them on the Ford website.

If you price a heavy duty payload package F150 (naturally aspirated with the 5.0), and compare it to a similarly equipped F250 with a 6.2 engine, the F150 is higher. The payloads are very similar, but higher on the F250 by about 4-500 lbs).

If you don't add the heavy duty payload package to the F150, then it's not really a fair comparison. Non-heavy duty F150 has a really low payload compared to the F250, so that's not really a fair comparison.

If you add a 3.5 L EcoBoost engine in, the price differential goes even higher, since that's a premium engine. You can't get the heavy duty payload package with the 2.7 L Ecoboost or the base V6, only the 5.0 and the 3.5 Ecoboost.

Expect that price premium to apply to the Super Duty when the aluminum body comes to those models as well.

[BruteForceNewYo]

Ok so narrowing down choices and still totally baffled by the numbers.

Example Trailer: Jayco Eagle 314BHDS, Dry Hitch 920 Lbs / Dry Weight 7710 / GVRW for Trailer is 9975.

Tongue Weights would be between 920 Lbs and 1496 Lbs.

Taking information from Ford Tow Guide F250/350
Gas SRW 19,200 GCRW and 12,200 Max Tow, Truck Weight is 6190, Payload 3000 Lbs. Max Tongue 1250 Lbs.
Diesel SRW 23,400 GCRW and 14,000 Max Tow, Truck Weight ???, Payload 2400 Lbs. Max Tongue 1400 Lbs. (Not enough payload unless move to F350)

Family Weight 500 Lbs
Leer Cap 250 Lbs
WDH 100 Lbs
Camping Stuff in Truck 300 Lbs

1150 Lbs in truck + 1250 Lbs Trailer Tongue = 2400 Lbs. Estimating trailer at 8400 Lbs (Probably conservative with some water and supplies)

Call me crazy but but feels like I need an F-350 and pretty close to dually territory if we go strictly by the numbers. I am also not counting generator, extra fuel, or other misc items which could end up being included.

How are guys pulling 10K trailers with a F150? I mean the above configuration at its limits is well into the numbers requiring a dually and this isn't really a particularly heavy trailer.

{Insert picture of me pulling my hair out}

[Bedlam]

I misunderstood what you needed. The Torklift SuperHitch Hero is rated for 15k lbs with 1500 lb WDH tongue weight. You need to use the smaller 10.5k lb OEM receiver with it.