blofgren wrote:
shum02 wrote:
I'm always amazed at the personal HATE people have for this motor, like it was responsible for the demise of a loved one. Yet around my neck of the woods I see more of them on the road than Cumins and Duramax trucks of the same years combined. Ford really must have done something wrong for almost 5 years.
Oh well. Hoping for another 5-10 years out of mine yet. Sure don't see why it won't hit 500K miles.
Amazed??? Have you not read of the thousands of people who have paid a fortune to keep these trucks on the road? Been on the side of the road with one? Paid dearly with resale value in the toilet? It isn't a mystery as to why there's a lot of disgust towards them.
And the fact that you see more of them on the road than any other truck means nothing. The vast majority of them have had a boat load of money put into them to keep them going and a lot of owners are forced to do it because they can't afford to get out of them.
Ford certainly did do something wrong and it was for more than 5 years because the 6.4L was a disaster too. They went from the excellent 7.3L to these 2 excuses for diesel engines and lost a lot of loyal customers doing so. I was one of them.
I guess you should have read the whole thread, you'd have seen my fist post.
1)350K kms and never stranded me.
2)I turn my own wrenches - LABOUR is the killer on all these trucks. It takes me 4 hours to get into and out of doing 4 injectors on one side of the truck - I bet shop billing is more. Not a bad or complicated job but time consuming if you're going to do it right and I have and do.
3)I am one of those guys who drives their vehicles into the ground, so I don't give a rats behind about resale, if I did I wouldn't buy an RV either.
And yea I spend a LOT of time on truck/diesel forums and yea it still is a mystery to me. BTW it's estimated IH built close to 2 million VT365 and PSD's. Bound to have some bad units with some bad owners serviced by bad dealers and tech's.
Again, WORRIED about shop bills and getting stranded due to internet lore? Buy a new truck.