ford f-150

the EB guys have their place and so do us Cummins guys-my little yellow sticker says 5435 lbs.!-whsk

goducks10 wrote:

Rthomas61 wrote:
I'd be interested to see what people think of the ecoboost f150's. Looking at them vs. the Chevy 1500 V8's. Ecoboost V6 ford F150 with 3.55 rear end is indeed 9600 lbs. saw that the other day. Kind of has me intrigued but I've always been a Chevy guy.

I would never tow with a 6cyl.

Yep, them big rig and cummins guys are fools. :R

:B :W

Rthomas61 wrote:
I'd be interested to see what people think of the ecoboost f150's. Looking at them vs. the Chevy 1500 V8's. Ecoboost V6 ford F150 with 3.55 rear end is indeed 9600 lbs. saw that the other day. Kind of has me intrigued but I've always been a Chevy guy.

911golf has an excellent testimonial about his. I love mine also. I haven't had the opportunity to take it to real mountains yet, but it has done a wonderful job in the Ouachitas and Ozarks, and it makes a great fuel efficient daily driver.
The 2008 Chevy I had with 5.3L, 3.73 did OK in gentle terrain, but I couldn't stand the screaming 4K+rpms every time I came to a grade, even on built-up overpasses in flat terrain. Colorado's 11,000+ passes with it were a nightmare. I know the 2014 Chevys have more hp and torque than mine did, but the Ecoboost has still more, and at lower rpm.

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I have a '13 F150 4x2 SuperCrew 5.5' bed XLT Ecoboost, 3.55 axle, no Max Tow, no HD payload. It has a payload of 1607#, 7100# GVWR. 9800# max trailer, 15,300# GCWR. This truck will run out of payload WAY before it runs out of engine to pull it. I am still searching for a toy hauler I can handle.

I pulled a 6x14 enclosed trailer full of motorcycles from Georgia to Colorado and back this summer. The GCVW was 9200#, 5500# of truck and 3700# of trailer and cargo and passengers. It got 16.2 mpg for 4600 miles, including about 1200 miles in the mountains. It gets 25 mpg highway when not towing.

I do not want a 3/4 ton truck as a daily driver, so I will just have to keep searching for a camper the truck can handle. I have my eye on one with a stated dry weight of 4200 and a GVWR of 7000. 14" wheels. :E

Check the torque curve for the Ecoboost.

You should be fine. I tow an alike TT with my 2013 Silverado 1500 with Max Tow package, rated at 9,600 with no difficulties. From what I heard the Ford Ecoboost is even better towing. I just finished a trip over a thousand miles fine. Yes, a bigger truck would probably do it better, but it was not needed. Good luck.

911golf >> thanks for sharing your research. There is nothing like 1st hand experience.

goducks10 wrote:

brulaz wrote:
yep, it's all about low-end torque when towing, and that's where the diesels and Ecoboost shine. As do the big V-8 and V-10's, but they consume a lot more fuel when not working.

But lots of low-end torque and tow capacity doesn't help when the available truck payload is too low for the trailer's tongue/pin weight. Ford's F150 trucks can have some impressive payload numbers if you get the right options. The Max Tow option helps add 400-500# to GVWR and payload.

But even better is the HD Payload option which can add as much as 1000#, with the improved suspension, rear axle and wheels effectively creating a hybrid truck somewhere between an F150 and F250. Unfortunately it usually has to be special ordered and is not available in all models/configurations.

Dodge RAM is introducing a V6 diesel with even more low end torque than the Ecoboost in their 1500, "half-ton" line this fall. But if they don't improve the payload of their light trucks it may be wasted.

Why would the diesel be wasted in the 1500 Ram. It's not a power house diesel it's more of an alternative motor for better mpg's. People by Ram 1500's to tow with so assuming the same tow ratings the diesel owner will get better unloaded mpg's and equal towing capability. Rams not putting that diesel motor in the 1500 to make it a tow monster. You could say the same thing about the Eco in Ford trucks with 1200lb payload ratings. I think people get fixated on thinking that since a truck has a diesel motor that it's supposed to be some power house towing machine.

I wasn't referring to diesel mileage when I said the diesel might be wasted in the RAM. But you are right, it should get better mileage than the Ecoboost.

I was referring to low-end torque. And I agree that an Ecoboost in an F150 with 1200# payload is sort of a waste for towing as well. But Ford does offer F150 Ecoboost's with much higher payloads that reasonably match the Ecoboost's tow capacity. My own truck is a case in point, 2050# payload. And you can get higher with the HD Payload option.

But the RAM 1500 has traditionally had a lower payload than most F150's. So let me clarify: "if they don't improve the payload of their light trucks" all the low-end torque of the new diesel engine may be wasted for towing. We'll see. I haven't been able to find any payload numbers for the new RAM.

brulaz wrote:
yep, it's all about low-end torque when towing, and that's where the diesels and Ecoboost shine. As do the big V-8 and V-10's, but they consume a lot more fuel when not working.

But lots of low-end torque and tow capacity doesn't help when the available truck payload is too low for the trailer's tongue/pin weight. Ford's F150 trucks can have some impressive payload numbers if you get the right options. The Max Tow option helps add 400-500# to GVWR and payload.

But even better is the HD Payload option which can add as much as 1000#, with the improved suspension, rear axle and wheels effectively creating a hybrid truck somewhere between an F150 and F250. Unfortunately it usually has to be special ordered and is not available in all models/configurations.

Dodge RAM is introducing a V6 diesel with even more low end torque than the Ecoboost in their 1500, "half-ton" line this fall. But if they don't improve the payload of their light trucks it may be wasted.

Why would the diesel be wasted in the 1500 Ram. It's not a power house diesel it's more of an alternative motor for better mpg's. People by Ram 1500's to tow with so assuming the same tow ratings the diesel owner will get better unloaded mpg's and equal towing capability. Rams not putting that diesel motor in the 1500 to make it a tow monster. You could say the same thing about the Eco in Ford trucks with 1200lb payload ratings. I think people get fixated on thinking that since a truck has a diesel motor that it's supposed to be some power house towing machine.

yep, it's all about low-end torque when towing, and that's where the diesels and Ecoboost shine. As do the big V-8 and V-10's, but they consume a lot more fuel when not working.

But lots of low-end torque and tow capacity doesn't help when the available truck payload is too low for the trailer's tongue/pin weight. Ford's F150 trucks can have some impressive payload numbers if you get the right options. The Max Tow option helps add 400-500# to GVWR and payload.

But even better is the HD Payload option which can add as much as 1000#, with the improved suspension, rear axle and wheels effectively creating a hybrid truck somewhere between an F150 and F250. Unfortunately it usually has to be special ordered and is not available in all models/configurations.

Dodge RAM is introducing a V6 diesel with even more low end torque than the Ecoboost in their 1500, "half-ton" line this fall. But if they don't improve the payload of their light trucks it may be wasted.