Ford finally releases specs for F-150 3.0L diesel

Allamakee1 wrote:
Ok back on topic. For those interested, I created a spreadsheet. It includes the exact national monthly average fuel prices for mid-grain gas and on-road diesel for every month throughout 2017 from the U.S. Energy Information Administration. I included things such as yearly maintenance, which includes oil changes for gas (45) and diesel (120) and fuel filters for diesel (30) multiplied by the factor of an oil change every 10k and filter every 20k. I used the fuelly numbers for comparing the EB to the ED as the ED is the only thing we currently have to compare and the EB seems to be of interest here for some. I also included DEF usage at 2%, I used the truck stop rate of around $2.80/Gallon.

I will tell you, for it to be a complete wash price wise, you would have to drive exactly 3,987.3 miles for them to cost you the same for the year. Anything less, the ED costs more to drive. Anything more, the EB costs more to drive. Take driving opinions into account from there, but there is nothing left to argue about with the actual numbers.

Couple examples on savings:
Yearly,
10,000 Miles = $271
20,000 Miles = $723
30,000 Miles = $1,174
40,000 Miles = $1,626

Ownership over multiple years....

Shout out a mileage and I will give you the ACTUAL cost difference.

I think there is something off in your calculations. Are you making your calculations with both fuels being that same cost because that is not the case for most people in the US?

Using your 10k mile savings of $271 as an example. Taking the average fuelly mileage of 16.2 for the 10-speed 3.5L Ecoboost and 22.4 for the Ecodiesel(which this 3.0L should get similar mileage), and factoring an average regular gasoline fuel price of $2.50 with diesel being $.25 higher, then you calculations should look like this for 10k miles.

(miles/mileage) x fuel price = cost

Gas: (10,000 miles/16.2 mpg) x $2.50 = $1,543.21 a year

Diesel: (10,000 miles/ 22.4 mpg) x $2.75 = $1,227.68 a year

$1,543.21 gas - $1,227.68 diesel = $315.53 annual fuel savings or $26.29 a month


Then factor in oil changes with the Ecoboost being $45 and the Ecodiesel $120 would be a $75 difference.

$315.53 annual savings - $75 oil change difference = $240.53 annual savings or $20.04 a month


Then factor in DEF at a 2% usage rate and $2.80 per gallon

10,000 miles / 22.4 mpg = 446.43 gallons of diesel used

.02 percent x 446.43 gallons of diesel = 8.93 gallons of DEF

8.93 gallons of DEF x $2.80 per gallon = $25.00 annual DEF

$240.53 previous annual savings - $25.00 = $215.53 annual savings or just $17.96 a month with 10k miles




For your 20k mile mark using the same fuel prices, oil change prices & intervals, and DEF prices in the formulas above, then your savings would be..

$631.06 fuel savings - $150 oil change - $50 of DEF - $25 fuel filter = $406.06 annual savings or $33.84 a month with 20k miles


Neither of these are a big enough savings for MOST half ton truck buyer to loose over 130 hp, more capability, and better performance. Go ahead, ask anyone here if you don't believe me.