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When I bought my first F350 back in 2011 I felt there were a number of little things that made Ford a better choice for me than what GM and Ram were offering. Things like power tow mirrors, tail gate ...
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BigToe wrote:ROBERTSUNRUS wrote:
Hi, yes you should expect that the fuel you buy to be good, but if it is not, blame the fuel company, not Ford. Water ruins the pump; Ford did not put the water in your tank.
Vehicles have to be built to run on the fuel that is available.
Imagine if your EcoBoost only ran on pure solid rocket fuel that was unobtainable anywhere except Cape Canaveral... that vehicle would be useless in Oregon.
When new Ford trucks don't run on the common fuel that is widely available from Tier One oil company brands dispensed at high volume stations... while all the other diesel trucks on the road do just fine on the same fuel, the problem boils down to Ford not building a truck that runs on the fuel that is available.
Fuel quality and content is strictly regulated. We don't have a choice in the matter. Neither do the refineries. Fuel content is a critical component of the EPA's emission control strategy.
No reasonably responsible person with enough disposable income to afford an $80K truck is dumping in forgotten fuel found in a rusty can buried by their grandpa under a dilapidated barn drowning in a swamp. The owners who have been marooned by Ford on this fuel pump issue have taken fastidious care of their trophy tow vehicle, buying only the best for it, including filter maintenance and top tier fuel. It isn't like they are careless or clueless.
The same fuel powers Peterbilts, KWs, Whites, Hinos, Izuzus, MB's, Cats, Cummins, and my 20 year old Ford diesel that I have drained fuel samples from into a clear container periodically and after letting it stand for a few hours, never yet found a drop of water in the fuel.
Yet Ford has chosen to point to trace amounts of slight corrosion inside the CP4 fuel pump as "evidence" that the customer pumped water into the fuel tank, and therefore the customer (or the fuel company) is to be blamed. For what? Poor engineering of a component that cannot run on the regulated fuel available? When that specific component is manufactured with dissimilar metals internally that eventually exhibit corrosion anyway, without help of water?
That GM warrantied the failure of these fuel pumps, and Ford didn't, demonstrates that Ford took advantage of the propensity of these pumps to exhibit dissimilar metal corrosion, and used that as an excuse to blame the customer for the problem in order to weasel out of any warranty obligation to fix it.
GM abandoned the CP4 pump.(Gale Banks has some insightful comparison comments on the differences between the CP4 and the new fuel pump in the L5P in a recent video he made in conjunction with two other guys whose names I forget)
Exactly what actually happened in my case...second dealer totally debunked the water in fuel nonsense from the crooked stealership in Ann Arbor...To deny Ford took the low road in the CP 4 debacle is a sure sign of “blue kool aid poisoning”...
