Here is the place to look up the tow guides. If you click on 2015, you can see the ratings for the new 2015 Transit Van, as well as other Ford vehicles. Final guide will be published in September 2014 with all the rating on all vehicles. http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/The F-650 is rated at 33,000 GCVWR with a gas engine! That would make a great toy hauler motorhome chassis.Ford will be offering 1.5 and 1.6 Liter Ecoboost engines. The Explorer will come with 2L and 3.5L Ecoboost engines, along with the standard 3.7L gas model. The diesel F-350 is rated at a maximum 35,000 GCVWR, while the F-450 pickup with 4X4 and diesel engine is rated at 40,000 GCVWR with the right packages. WOW!Fred.

Wow is right! I wonder though just how power the F-650 gas would have.

The document says it is "preliminary" and actual ratings will be published Sept 2014. I also noticed that the footnotes on some of the ratings, but not all, reference the J2807 standard. The Transit van with the 3.2L diesel engine is interesting for towing smaller trailers.

I like the transit van with the 3.2l myself. Now, if they only put that engine in the aluminum F150.....DREAM DREAM DREAAMMMM

ReneeG wrote:Wow is right! I wonder though just how power the F-650 gas would have.They actually have a lot of power. Probably not going to win any uphill races when you have a loaded dumptruck towing a backhoe, however it will out-run a 1990 diesel dump truck at the same weight. It is also about 800 pounds lighter weight than a diesel truck. The diesel engine and transmission are much more weight, + emission controls, DEF tank, ect. It will have 362 HP.And the F-650 can be equipped with natural gas tanks, then run $2 fuel. That is a HUGE plus to most municipalities who get huge federal rebates for buying natural gas vehicles. Yes the Transit specs are pretty good. The full size Transit wagons can tow about 5,000 pounds while cargo versions can tow around 6,000 - 7,000, probably more dependent on the load within the van limiting the overall trailer weight. I find it interesting that there are so many Ecoboost engines. 1.5L, 1.6L, 2L, 2.3L and 3.5L ecoboosts! Ford is also building a inline 3 cylinder 1L ecoboost, that will not be sold here - yet.Fred.

F650 V10 is 365HP, and is paired to the 6-speed TorqueShift, so it'll probably perform fine.Fred - The 1.0L EcoBoost is for sale! It is available now in the Fiesta.I saw the Transit Specs, and I was a little disappointed. For towing, it simply doesn't come close to replacing the E-series. It does look like the E-series Wagon was thrown another lifeline, at least for a little bit. And SportMobile is finishing up development on a fiberglass E-series body clone to keep building vans using the cutaway chassis.

Ford tow guide 2015 and Super Duty @33,000 GCVWR

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jun 07, 2014
prfssr wrote:
talonhead wrote:
The Ram 2500/3500 SRW come with 3.42's the 3500 DRW comes with the 3.73 or 4.10. 4500/5500 is 4.10 or 4.44's.

My 2013 Ram 3500 Dually has 3:42 gears with a 6 speed Aisin Tranny. So far, towing has been a dream but the big test is at the end of the month when we will travel about 2000 miles towing our 8300 lb. TT to Florida and back. :B

You won't even know its there!
parkersdad
Explorer
Jun 07, 2014
I don't care about their test I will take a Cummins motor over the other two any day. That is me and my opinion though!
larry_barnhart
Explorer
Jun 06, 2014
No question the ford with the lower rear gear would win that race. Never is an equal test and with the chev at 3.73 which I really like for our truck same story. I would not get my chest pumped up for either brands winning a fixed contest. fun to watch only. Hard to not like any new trucks.

chevman
FishOnOne
Nomad
Jun 06, 2014
jus2shy wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
So what is the "high capacity trailer tow package" ?

Easy to raise numbers but what did they do to justify the numbers?

Perhaps they justified it publicly by spanking their competition. :B

Let the spanking begin

Just make sure you don't go boondocking anywhere in the pacific northwest, you may end up twisting the frame on some of the roads in them thar hills :).

I would say my truck get's tested pretty good in South Texas.

Perhaps that's why Ford is the best selling truck in Texas!

Oh wait... My tail gate is stuck! :E
prfssr
Explorer
Jun 06, 2014
talonhead wrote:
The Ram 2500/3500 SRW come with 3.42's the 3500 DRW comes with the 3.73 or 4.10. 4500/5500 is 4.10 or 4.44's.

My 2013 Ram 3500 Dually has 3:42 gears with a 6 speed Aisin Tranny. So far, towing has been a dream but the big test is at the end of the month when we will travel about 2000 miles towing our 8300 lb. TT to Florida and back. :B
thomasmnile
Explorer
Jun 06, 2014
A shame NASA ended the shuttle program before Ford came out with a truck capable of pulling one like the Tundra...............:p:p:p :B

Sorry, could not resist rolling that 'grenade' into the room.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jun 06, 2014
jus2shy wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
So what is the "high capacity trailer tow package" ?

Easy to raise numbers but what did they do to justify the numbers?

Perhaps they justified it publicly by spanking their competition. :B

Let the spanking begin

Just make sure you don't go boondocking anywhere in the pacific northwest, you may end up twisting the frame on some of the roads in them thar hills :).

Yup.

Easy to raise numbers.

RAM raised theirs along with many upgrades to justify doing so.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jun 06, 2014
jus2shy wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
So what is the "high capacity trailer tow package" ?

Easy to raise numbers but what did they do to justify the numbers?

Perhaps they justified it publicly by spanking their competition. :B

Let the spanking begin

Just make sure you don't go boondocking anywhere in the pacific northwest, you may end up twisting the frame on some of the roads in them thar hills :).

Yup.

Easy to raise numbers.

RAM raised theirs along with many upgrades to justify doing so.
Lessmore
Explorer II
Jun 06, 2014
It would wise to compare the F 650 with the V10, with the Mack, Hino, International and Kenworth have on offer with their MDT line.

It may mean considering a diesel, but there are a fair number of options for MDT, at that level.
talonhead
Explorer
Jun 06, 2014
The Ram 2500/3500 SRW come with 3.42's the 3500 DRW comes with the 3.73 or 4.10. 4500/5500 is 4.10 or 4.44's.