GM full size SUVs. Highest miles still on the road.

Engineer9860 wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:
Where are all of these Expeditions they talk about. I’m not seeing any. Can’t remember the last time I saw an Expedition.

Perhaps it's a very regional thing?? My neighbor across the street has an older one, the neighbor behind me (I'm a corner lot) has a Lincoln Navigator, and the neighbor across the intersection has a nearly new Expedition.
I'm literally surrounded by them, if you count the Lincoln. And not a Suburban to be seen.
My best man's 2002 Expy has around 200K on it, but not adding many miles these days since he takes the light rail to work now.
Here we are camping a while back.

I knew if I could get any body to respond to my post it would be you. ;)

And I know how much you hate Blazers so I’m going to add back into the post the part of my original comments that you seen fit to clip:

Engineer9860 wrote:


As far as the GM SUVs our little 1997 Blazer has 370,000mi on it. Original engine. Original trans went to 300,000 and would probably still be going if it had not been for a faulty aftermarket transmission cooler install.

And see, I wasn't gonna say a word about the Blazer:W. My concerns have nothing to do with longevity, the 4.3 V6 was a stout motor, and I admit to ignorance on the transmission used behind it. Automatic transmissions from the 90's and before don't really charge me up much, but then again I really prefer to row my own. Don't get me started on CVT's...

Fordlover wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:
Where are all of these Expeditions they talk about. I’m not seeing any. Can’t remember the last time I saw an Expedition.

Perhaps it's a very regional thing?? My neighbor across the street has an older one, the neighbor behind me (I'm a corner lot) has a Lincoln Navigator, and the neighbor across the intersection has a nearly new Expedition.
I'm literally surrounded by them, if you count the Lincoln. And not a Suburban to be seen.
My best man's 2002 Expy has around 200K on it, but not adding many miles these days since he takes the light rail to work now.
Here we are camping a while back.

I knew if I could get any body to respond to my post it would be you. ;)

And I know how much you hate Blazers so I’m going to add back into the post the part of my original comments that you seen fit to clip:

Engineer9860 wrote:


As far as the GM SUVs our little 1997 Blazer has 370,000mi on it. Original engine. Original trans went to 300,000 and would probably still be going if it had not been for a faulty aftermarket transmission cooler install.

I had 1 GM product and never will own another again.

Engineer9860 wrote:
Where are all of these Expeditions they talk about. I’m not seeing any. Can’t remember the last time I saw an Expedition.

Perhaps it's a very regional thing?? My neighbor across the street has an older one, the neighbor behind me (I'm a corner lot) has a Lincoln Navigator, and the neighbor across the intersection has a nearly new Expedition.
I'm literally surrounded by them, if you count the Lincoln. And not a Suburban to be seen.
My best man's 2002 Expy has around 200K on it, but not adding many miles these days since he takes the light rail to work now.
Here we are camping a while back.

Where are all of these Expeditions they talk about. I’m not seeing any. Can’t remember the last time I saw an Expedition.

As far as the GM SUVs our little 1997 Blazer has 370,000mi on it. Original engine. Original trans went to 300,000 and would probably still be going if it had not been for a faulty aftermarket transmission cooler install.

I would chime in that the Expedition and Suburban may also average more miles per year based on the vehicle type. I know that I put over 29k miles on a new Suburban in 9 months in 2012. It was my commute vehicle, fit my family, and was fuel efficient for the number of passengers.

rjstractor wrote:
I think it's a reflection of the extremely high cost of replacing these types of vehicles as well as their relatively high resale, not a reflection of durability or reliability. For example, if a Kia Rio that's 10 years old with 200,000 miles has a major mechanical problem (a transmission failure for example), it's very likely that the cost of repair will be more than the car is worth and the car ends up being scrapped. A Suburban or Expedition transmission failure won't cost much more, but since the vehicle is still likely worth much more than the cost of repair (and very expensive to replace) that owner will likely invest the money and keep the car on the road.

Bingo! :B

Interesting but not surprising.

A few years ago I was looking for a 2500 Burb with the 8.1. I saw a ton of high mile Burbs when I was looking that still (to me) were asking for a ton of $.

We found a 2003 with around 125k miles. Engine and tranny were great. Seats didn’t hold up well. Heated seats didn’t work and I spent close to $1k to replace a leaky sunroof. Dash was badly cracked. And the rear defroster failed as well as other “little things”. Rattled like crazy and my wife hated it.

We kept it just one year. Two years ago we replaced it with a 2011 Yukon Denali XL. Now has 85k on the clock. And rattles just as bad as the old one did. But at least the heated seats still work and the sunroof doesn’t leak. Yet. At least it is mechanically sound.

I would like to get rid of it but a new one is too expensive. I’m sure I am not alone in my feelings.

I think it's a reflection of the extremely high cost of replacing these types of vehicles as well as their relatively high resale, not a reflection of durability or reliability. For example, if a Kia Rio that's 10 years old with 200,000 miles has a major mechanical problem (a transmission failure for example), it's very likely that the cost of repair will be more than the car is worth and the car ends up being scrapped. A Suburban or Expedition transmission failure won't cost much more, but since the vehicle is still likely worth much more than the cost of repair (and very expensive to replace) that owner will likely invest the money and keep the car on the road.

Fordlover wrote:

MARK VANDERBENT wrote:
Article out today from ic.cars did a study of 13 million autos and looks like GMs full size SUVS too list . Well I have been driving very high mile suburban for years now and can say I'm amazed at how much money I can sell a suburban with 250,000 miles for. I drive one now with 320,000 and it still kelly blue books at 9,000.

iseecars.com wrote:
Research from iSeeCars.com found that the Ford Expedition and Toyota Sequoia are four times as likely and the Chevrolet Suburban 3.5 times as likely as the average vehicle to be still on the road at 200,000 miles. The study looked at the 13 million used cars sold last year ranging from 1981 models to 2017.

Overall, 1.3 percent of average vehicles made it to 200,000, while the percentage for the Ford Expedition was 5.7, with the Toyota Sequoia at 5.6 and the Chevrolet Suburban at 4.8.

As Paul Harvey would say, "and now you know the rest of the story."

Well said...