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Grounding issues

gettinmykxs
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Been awhile since I have been online, moved to a different RV park here in Central Ca. Problem, there appears to be a grounding issue, when ever I touch the outside of my rig I get sparks and zapped. I went and bought a 8 ft cooper pole, but not sure where to put it, seeing how the electric box is in concrete. I did notice when I touched the parks electrical box I got zapped. Should I unplug my electric line to the box and see if that stops the electrical activity? I noticed this happened when it rains. Any suggestions or advise?
Thanks, Susan, Mistyblue, Shana & Tommy the terror

2004 Forest River Salem 37'
Pulled with a 90 Dodge Ram Diesel
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time2roll
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Did you show the bill details to the park owner?
May as well ask for a free month (50%?) otherwise follow through with your plan to move.
Great to hear all is repaired and safe.

hawkeye-08
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Sounds like your trailer is fixed. We had hot skin once, it was not fun to get zapped. Our problem was a wire for exhaust fan in kitchen area had rubbed through and was intermittently touching the metal skin...

gettinmykxs
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Baja937 wrote:
Susan---You say he found GROUNDING problems at the Box? What exactly did he do for that?

What about the REVERSE POLARITY issue at the Box?
He reversed the plug in at the source, I watched him do it. It was very old, worn and had a lot of rust in it. Even after almost 3 months when we had a friend that works on RV's come over and reversed the polarity, the ground or green as you call it, was down not up, the hot/ or red was on the right instead of the left, and the neutral or white was on the right, was turned around to the correct the issue. He said there was only a partial ground, so he replaced the plug in, in the electrical box. And that is a 30 amp connection. And yes before you ask, he is a state certified, license, bonded and insured tech. That only works on RV's, Motorhomes etc. He had one of those yellow meters that one of you put in this post, and checked for the amount of electrity that was coming out of each connection. Since the water heater was fried, he also replaced the thermostat, that had no power at all, so I was having a problem with the water heater, and as I said he replaced the thermostat and rechecked the power to it. Then there was power to the water heater. He also checked the GFI we had replaced in the coach, and the one outside on the pedestal or as you call it the amp's box, that one was also replaced. The one outside that is. The one in the coach was fine, and working like it should be. He said who ever repaired the electrical box did a shady job. The box is not a PG&E box, its one the park put in. When in fact as he told me, when the trailer In this spot should have had the entire box replaced, but was only inspected. Apparently that wasn't good enough. I asked him also about the water that was on the concrete surrounding the electrical box, and he said that would also cause a problem, like burn out, because as we know water and electric don't mix. He also said the amount of wattage was causing high amounts of eclectics, where I was getting bills for electric that was very high. I have never had a electric bill that was 120.00, 145.00, 133.00 or even 96.00 bucks a month. I usually run about 37 dollars a month. I am a RV, not a house. Even when the summer heat, it wouldn't be that high. This park has its own wattage. we figured we are paying 26 of electrical wattage. Way to high. We have elected to move to Bakersfield in a park that is safe, and electrical box is up to code. Once he repaired the box outside, made sure that my wiring inside the coach was up to date, including breakers and fuse's, every thing was fine. He also said the GFI that is connected to the elect box outside that has a GFI wouldn't cost us more money for electrical. The main issue was the pedestal was screwed up. Just inspecting the electrical box at he source wasn't enough. When they had a fire in this space, the space next to this one also suffered major electrical damages and that box in space 134 was replaced completely. The water heater connection in side the coach was reversed so you can run either propane or electric and never run out of hot water. He also said with his well where the owner puts gallons of bleach down it, is a cause for alarm, as their is a bacteria issue. He attempted to tell me it was Oscha, which that is when there are issues with construction, not a well. He pours gallons of bleach down in the well every damn night. The owner of this park doesn't know jack about RV parks, how to maintain, etc. So on that note, I will get out of here. I have never experienced electrical problems in any of the RV parks I have lived in, except this one. And yes he will have to pay part of the mess up, as he is the owner of this park, and I am done playing the game.
Susan
2004 Forest River Salem 37' ft.

Baja937
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Susan---You say he found GROUNDING problems at the Box? What exactly did he do for that?

What about the REVERSE POLARITY issue at the Box?

westend
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Always like a story with a happy ending. Art sounds like the kind of guy that I'd want to work on my stuff. 'Attaboy Art!
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gettinmykxs
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westend wrote:
Updates?

Ok, so I called this Mobile RV Tech @ 6am PST, and he called back and was here in less then 2 hours. What he found, the electrical box had some issues with the grounding, which he re did. Second, the fuse box, inside the trailer, they checked out right on the money. He replaced the thermostat on the water heater, and the water heater wasn't grounded like it should have been. The white wire was on the wrong input, and the black was on the other side. He checked all wiring inside the coach. The main problem was at the electrical box, was still not properly grounded even with the surge protector on it. He fixed that too. He advised us to by jumper wires for the two batteries which we will put on tomorrow. The zapping is gone. He also told us that on the electrical box there is another GFI which he told us to take an extention cord and connect our small freezer to it as that would stop the overload. My A/C is working fine now, as with all lights, water heater, he reversed the water heater to run on either electric or propane. As for my slide that has a gap that's the next job for him to do in days ahead. If any of you are in the San Luis Obispo county area, the mobile RV is called Art's Mobile RV service. He was very good, went straight to the problems and resolved them. He was amazed that this park would put a trailer in a spot where there had been a fire, that burned another trailer to the ground. The surge protector is working the way it should be. Both lights are now green as they should be, and no RED anywhere. I was very pleased how quickly he arrived and took control and got this coach back to the norm. Art's Mobile service's phone number is 805-712-2087, just in case you need someone who knows his stuff about TT's. He was reasonable in his price, it was under 300.00. I now feel safe and secure, but I am still going to move out of this park as soon as I can. He even gave us a number where there may be a space. Thank you to each of you that have helped me with this situation.
Susan,
2004 Forest River Salem, 37' ft

westend
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Updates?
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Fisherguy
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Oaklevel wrote:
There could and probably is two issues one a the pedestal & one in the coach. There probably is a wiring issue with the wiring to the converter or at the plug coming into the RV. I have had a trailer skin shocking me issue years ago & the problem was with the trailer wiring........... Call a mobile RV repair much cheaper than being dead........


What was causing the problem in your trailer?
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gettinmykxs
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I got a hold of a Mobile RV Tech who a lot of people here say he is the best in this county. He's coming up here in a hour. I touched my electrical cord and it was cool. Not warm or hot. He works with Good Sam Extended, and when I told him of the fire that was in this spot, he was surprised that the owners of this park would rent this space out, as he said it could be the underground lines to their electrical box are fried. He asked me what have the owners of this park done for you, and I said nothing. He was not surprised by that, as he has done work for others in this park, so I will see how it goes. I was surprised I got a hold of him so quickly which brings a sense of relief. When ever there appears to be a issue, the owners daughter said you can leave. Am trying to get the hell out of here. I explained the surge guard to him, and he clearly said if the red is on, its their box not you. I will gladly pay him to fix all issues. Its worth my coach and of course my life. Will let you all know what he has to say and what he will do. Susan
Susan
Forestriver/Salem 2004 37 ft':)

gettinmykxs
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Oaklevel wrote:
There could and probably is two issues one a the pedestal & one in the coach. There probably is a wiring issue with the wiring to the converter or at the plug coming into the RV. I have had a trailer skin shocking me issue years ago & the problem was with the trailer wiring........... Call a mobile RV repair much cheaper than being dead........
I am just going to call my insurance company and take the coach into a repair shop. If they figure out its not my wiring, then I will go somewhere. Where I don't know, but I have had enough of this crap.

time2roll
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Clearly the Surge Guard is indicating reverse polarity.
You need a real electrician to fix this issue. (not the camp handyman or what you had before)
This issue is easily identifiable and repairable to a properly trained technician.

http://trci.net/media/143221/505-00057_instructions_44260-44270.pdf

Does the pedestal have 50 amp power? Maybe a 50/30 adapter would work.

Oaklevel
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There could and probably is two issues one a the pedestal & one in the coach. There probably is a wiring issue with the wiring to the converter or at the plug coming into the RV. I have had a trailer skin shocking me issue years ago & the problem was with the trailer wiring........... Call a mobile RV repair much cheaper than being dead........

krobbe
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Your Surge Guard Is telling you that there is a reverse polarity issue with the pedestal.
Unplug from the pedestal and let the RV park know there is a problem. They need to fix it before you can use it.
A reverse polarity condition is a hazard as it makes the neutral line hot and the Hot line grounded causing a shock hazard. It can also damage your electronic equipment.
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gettinmykxs
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westend wrote:
You reversed polarity where?

If you have a surge protector plugged into the pedestal and it has a red light on, it is an issue with the pedestal and it's connections.

Are you still parked in the same spot? Have you had anyone knowledgeable look at your RV's electrical system?

If the DISH system is the root of your electrical problems, remove it from your RV (after you unplug from the pedestal), call back the company and have it correctly installed.

I'd suggest you hire an experienced RV tech, a mobile guy, and have him look over your RV and the pedestal. This stuff isn't hard to figure out but you are way out of your depth and this could be a serious problem.
The model number is 44260 the red light is on. With the green on the left. Reverse polarity, 120v,30 amp, 2100 Joules of surge protection.