โMar-18-2015 03:50 PM
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โMar-20-2015 06:16 PM
BurbMan wrote:
The rear axle on the burb is rated at 6084, exactly twice the 3042 lb max load of 245/75-16E tires. I went to 265 tires that are rated at 3470 each, giving me an additional 856 lbs of axle rating, since AAM rates the axle at 10k lbs.
If I had time I would draw a Venn diagram, but basically:
Circle #1 is people that tow a trailer, most drive a crew cab pickup
Circle #2 is families that are big enough to need a 3rd row, most drive a minivan.
The overlap area is families that are large enough to need a 3rd row and also tow a trailer. Overlap area is veeerryyy small compared to the overall market.
Maybe the market would be better for an HD Escalade ESV?
โMar-20-2015 08:28 AM
hawkeye-08 wrote:
I would expect it would need to be a 3500 to pull decent sized trailer and be loaded with people and gear...
โMar-20-2015 07:28 AM
โMar-20-2015 04:47 AM
Tystevens wrote:
I would like to see a 3/4 ton Suburban with ratings along the lines of the 2500HD pickups. I'd love to see one with that could legitimately handle an 11,000 lb trailer with a family of 6 inside. Hopefully with a diesel under the hood! That's probably what it would take to get me really interested, because that is what we need.
I concede, however, that the market for such a vehicle is probably quite small. So I'm not holding my breath.
โMar-20-2015 04:42 AM
โMar-19-2015 07:39 PM
โMar-19-2015 06:54 PM
Bedlam wrote:
Even the current vehicle has some high centering issues:
โMar-19-2015 05:36 PM
intheburbs wrote:mich800 wrote:BurbMan wrote:
Just read where it might be a 3500 Suburban...possibly 9200 or higher GVWR, which would make it a killer SUV!! Would eat into some of the HD crew cab market for sure!
How big of a step up would this be. Was the 2500 sub light. dosen't seem like a 9200 gvwr would leave a lot of payload.
My '08 2500 has a curb weight of 6500, giving it a max payload (according to the door sticker) of 2088 lbs. According to the door sticker, the rear axle (10.5 full floater) is rated to 5500 lbs, and the front axle is rated at 4180. So, in theory, the only thing limiting my GVWR to 8600 is the braking system. 5500+4180 = 9680. Based on axle capacities, it seems there's quite a bit of room to increase GVWR keeping the rest of the components the same.
I believe American Axle rates this rear axle at 8600 lbs, so the tires are the limiting factor in this application. E tires are rated to ~3000 lbs each.
I'm pretty sure Duraburb uses the 9200-gvwr braking system to upgrade payloads on their modded trucks.
Upgrade the brakes and tires, and you could theoretically have a GVWR approacing 10,000 lbs, without much gain in the curb weight. I would buy a 2016 Burb with a 3,000-lb payload and 9500-lb GVWR in a split second. Shut up and take my money.
But again,not holding my breath.
โMar-19-2015 04:35 PM
โMar-19-2015 03:21 PM
Dadoffourgirls wrote:
I think there were some spy shots of the 8-lug Suburban not to long ago.
Most likely focused on the fleet - Government needs. When the Secret Service got done armoring the Prius for Obama, it did not do well.
โMar-19-2015 03:05 PM
hone eagle wrote:gmcsmoke wrote:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/_/chevrolet-truck-news/2016-chevrolet-suburban-hd-will-be-34-ton-fleet...
Fleet only...........for now.
or buy one from a rental company in a few months.
โMar-19-2015 02:57 PM
gmcsmoke wrote:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/_/chevrolet-truck-news/2016-chevrolet-suburban-hd-will-be-34-ton-fleet...
โMar-19-2015 02:02 PM