Help with truck capabilities

PA12DRVR wrote:
It's always amusing to me to see the self-styled experts bash people who are expressing an opinion: "lawsuit myth" "legally" means you don't know what you're talking about, etc.

I wonder how many of the people tossing around the "lawsuit myth" term have ever earned their living in a courtroom and can back up their arrogance with experience?

At least one that I know of.

It's always amusing to me to see the self-styled experts bash people who are expressing an opinion: "lawsuit myth" "legally" means you don't know what you're talking about, etc.

I wonder how many of the people tossing around the "lawsuit myth" term have ever earned their living in a courtroom and can back up their arrogance with experience?

austintx wrote:

anaro wrote:
if you are trading the truck, spend the little bit extra for the 1 ton. it gets you more payload for the eventual trailer upgrade that everyone ends up doing..

I could sure see that happening. Now that I have started down this road I am not sure where to stop.

Yeah it does get rather silly on a RV forum when you ask a weights question with the lawsuit myth and ya' gotta' have a one ton to pull a trailer or a 1/2 ton is just a grocery getter.

The F250 will have no issues pulling the TT in your OP nor will it have any issues pulling its tow rating nor carry weight up to the trucks 6100 RAWR/tire capacities. Front axle doesn't carry much if any weight with a bumper pull or a GN/5er.

Some say get a F350 SRW. The neat thing about a F250, or any '00s 3/4 ton is the owner can install higher rated tires/wheels and air bags or similar rear suspension help and have the same load carrying capabilities as the one ton SRW.

You sure don't need a one ton DRW for that job unless your into over kill.

kaydeejay wrote:
My basic message is quite simple: stay within the Manufacturer's specs and you avoid all potential litigation situations that exceeding the ratings could cause.

shakinghead

SolidAxleDurango wrote:
Please stop with the fear-mongering.

It doesn't matter if you are carrying a paperclip, or an Abrams tank on your trailer..... If someone THINKS you're negligent, they can file a civil suit against you.... Even if you're declared "not guilty"... Ask OJ.. LOL

No fear mongering here - I was personally involved with two cases where drivers in accidents were found "negligent" due to overloading, one of them was found guilty of "criminal negligence causing death". He was somewhere north of 1500# over payload of a 1/2 ton!
Don't ask for minute details - I no longer have any as it was long before I retired, and that was 11 years ago!
My involvement was in providing the lawyers the weight specs of the trucks so they could go to court and say "the vehicle was never tested nor certified to carry the load in question".
Open and shut at that point apparently.

Does it happen often? - Hard to tell as such cases are normally not simply a charge of overloading, most times those figures simply add fuel to the charges that have already been laid. In the cases I'm referencing the charges were increased to negligence because of the overloading.
Hopefully such situations are rare, but don't say never.

My basic message is quite simple: stay within the Manufacturer's specs and you avoid all potential litigation situations that exceeding the ratings could cause.

You know Bob, These posts you have so much disdain for, gives some of us the opportunity to banter back and forth with our experiences and ideas. I learn something everyday by reading and participating in dialog with other members who appreciate the concept of sharing. Like I tell my 6 year old, if you don't have something positive to add, zip it.

These "what's the best" and "what should I buy" all pretty much end up the same. What you get is a hodge-podge of comments by a bunch of intolerant people telling you that what they have is the best and nothing else will do the job for you. It really gets rather funny when after a couple of posts, it's obvious that the guy doesn't have a clue about the topic, but he's posting something and that's what counts.

As far as towing and tow vehicles, there are enough stickies and posts on this and other forums about that same topic, that if the OPs would read them, chances are the questions would never be asked in the first place.

Popcorn, anyone?

kaydeejay wrote:

SolidAxleDurango wrote:

romore wrote:
Dry weight is only useful for the carrier transporting it to the dealer, it is absolutely meaningless for our purposes. You need to be concerned with the trailer's gross weight rating which on that unit will far exceed your truck's towing capacity. Can you tow it? Probably. Can you tow it safely and legally? NO!!!

As soon as you use the word "legally", you expose the fact that you don't know what you're talking about.

Good idea or not, the law has nothing to do with it.

Careful with that! While overloading is technically NOT illegal in terms of getting a ticket, it can cause a bucketful of grief in terms of civil liability if you are overloaded and involved in an accident.

Please stop with the fear-mongering.

It doesn't matter if you are carrying a paperclip, or an Abrams tank on your trailer..... If someone THINKS you're negligent, they can file a civil suit against you.... Even if you're declared "not guilty"... Ask OJ.. LOL

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

kaydeejay wrote:

APT wrote:
2250-2400 was from my informal poll at the last few North America International Auto Shows opening doors and looking at Tire and Loading stickers. Rams did not have stickers, Ford/GM did.

Rams had a sticker SOMEWHERE near the driver's door - legal requirement since (IRC) 2005.

That is a legal requirement for vehicles to be sold. The Rams at the NAIAS were pre-production, non-saleable builds. Therefore, they did not have stickers, and can not be sold for on highway use.

True for non-saleable units - I didn't realize that's what you were referring to.

Thx APT & Kaydeejay. I've been schooled!