I need help finding a custom trailer builder

Gdetrailer wrote:

popupcamping wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:
Not to rain on your parade but have you thought about how HEAVY your mobile spa might weigh?

How much water are you planning to use/haul (IE, fresh/grey/black for toilet)?

Water weighs in about 8.8 lbs per gallon... 100 gallons will weigh in at 880 lbs alone!

Real hardwood floors are heavy, not gonna like the moisture inside your mobile spa and most likely will buckle over time not to mention will require substantial sub floor to nail them too.

Have to heat the water, typical RV water heaters are 6-10 gallon and will use quite a lot of propane.

Electrical, with all the possible high energy devices you might end up needing might need a 50A 120/240 shore power connection (this will become an issue if you are traveling to a clients home since they most likely WILL NOT have this connection. Most likely you would be limited to 15A/20A 120V connection at a clients home.

Otherwise you will need a huge generator (7Kw-10Kw) which is going to eat ALL of your "profits" in fuel not to mention take a huge chunk out of your budget to buy and install.

A/C units, most likely in such a large trailer you will need at least THREE 15K BTU A/C units (would REQUIRE 50A 120/240 shore power).

You are going to be looking a a SUBSTANTIAL "investment" cost and may end up a total impractical idea.

Then there is an issue of proper placement/layout of ALL of your equipment, there is weight associated with equipment and you MUST place it so it doesn't overload axles or prevent the hitch from having the proper weight (Tongue weight MUST be 10%-15% of the overall trailer weight with 12%-15% being ideal).

Too light of tongue weight and the trailer WILL SWAY which WILL cause you to lose control even at low speeds..

Simply put, this trailer will be heavy, no doubt about it I would be doubtful you are going to get away with using any small tow vehicles.

I would recommend you research and add up ALL the weight of your proposed items including the hardwood floors (walls, shower, spa equipment, water, propane, gen and so on) BEFORE even having a trailer built...

or you can just discuss it with a custom builder like in your opening post...geeezzz

:R

That is really a HELPFUL POST.. NOT.

Depending on the OPs intentions they may or may not divulge ENOUGH realistic info to the builder.

The OPs expectations may not be realistic to start with and needs to start THINKING about CRITICAL systems BEFORE they even approach a builder.

Knowing and understanding FULLY potential pitfalls before dumping tons of money and time into something IS a GOOD thing.

When I see someone posting a wishlist which puts REAL HARDWOOD FLOORS AND A "SPA" into a MOVING MOBILE space I can't help to think that this person may not fully understand the potential issues at hand. VINYL FLOORING WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE in a mobile environment not to mention less weight and more durable.

You simply don't wave a wand and magically make this happen on this kind of scale without fully thinking out the possibilities.

Think about what happens when you attempt to fit a 35 ft trailer PLUS 25ft of vehicle into a residential street. The size and length may even limit the potential clientele. Or find yourself BACKING the entire rig a few blocks to get it out of a tight place because there is not enough room to turn around.

OP NEEDS to here some FEEDBACK EVEN IF YOU (or the OP) don't "feel" it is needed.

But the thing is the OP didn't ask for your opinion. He wanted to know of a "custom builder". YOU are completely OT.

I am sure the OP is talking about Massages and scrubs not a bubbling tub. Why did you assume a spa meant water?

You speculated about his whole situation and made comments telling him he can't do what YOU think he is wanting to do.

We need to stay on topic in this forum. It is hard for some but we need to try.

It may be cheaper to purchase a good, used TT and have it retrofitted to your needs.

Wonder if OP means spa as in mudpacks and massages rather than bubbling tub o' water?

69 Avion wrote:
Making a trailer haul the weight isn't that hard. Hauling 1,000-1,500 gallons is easy. Getting the water to stay in the spa is another story. Also, moving liquids without baffles is also dangerous. That is what makes hauling Milk more difficult than hauling Gasoline. A milk trailer doesn't have baffles because of sanitation requirements. Never drive near one, especially in front of one.

Pretty much unrealistic to FULLY load an open tank (spa) with no seal able top and drive it around in traffic and not have "spillage" (that water WILL SLOSH).

Spa would need to have much of the water removed, then would need refilled AND HEATED at the time of arrival. This takes time and ENERGY and would require having some serious water heating equipment plus a pretty good electrical system to handle the pumps and such...

To me that seems like it is more hassle than what it would be worth..

popupcamping wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:
Not to rain on your parade but have you thought about how HEAVY your mobile spa might weigh?

How much water are you planning to use/haul (IE, fresh/grey/black for toilet)?

Water weighs in about 8.8 lbs per gallon... 100 gallons will weigh in at 880 lbs alone!

Real hardwood floors are heavy, not gonna like the moisture inside your mobile spa and most likely will buckle over time not to mention will require substantial sub floor to nail them too.

Have to heat the water, typical RV water heaters are 6-10 gallon and will use quite a lot of propane.

Electrical, with all the possible high energy devices you might end up needing might need a 50A 120/240 shore power connection (this will become an issue if you are traveling to a clients home since they most likely WILL NOT have this connection. Most likely you would be limited to 15A/20A 120V connection at a clients home.

Otherwise you will need a huge generator (7Kw-10Kw) which is going to eat ALL of your "profits" in fuel not to mention take a huge chunk out of your budget to buy and install.

A/C units, most likely in such a large trailer you will need at least THREE 15K BTU A/C units (would REQUIRE 50A 120/240 shore power).

You are going to be looking a a SUBSTANTIAL "investment" cost and may end up a total impractical idea.

Then there is an issue of proper placement/layout of ALL of your equipment, there is weight associated with equipment and you MUST place it so it doesn't overload axles or prevent the hitch from having the proper weight (Tongue weight MUST be 10%-15% of the overall trailer weight with 12%-15% being ideal).

Too light of tongue weight and the trailer WILL SWAY which WILL cause you to lose control even at low speeds..

Simply put, this trailer will be heavy, no doubt about it I would be doubtful you are going to get away with using any small tow vehicles.

I would recommend you research and add up ALL the weight of your proposed items including the hardwood floors (walls, shower, spa equipment, water, propane, gen and so on) BEFORE even having a trailer built...

or you can just discuss it with a custom builder like in your opening post...geeezzz

:R

That is really a HELPFUL POST.. NOT.

Depending on the OPs intentions they may or may not divulge ENOUGH realistic info to the builder.

The OPs expectations may not be realistic to start with and needs to start THINKING about CRITICAL systems BEFORE they even approach a builder.

Knowing and understanding FULLY potential pitfalls before dumping tons of money and time into something IS a GOOD thing.

When I see someone posting a wishlist which puts REAL HARDWOOD FLOORS AND A "SPA" into a MOVING MOBILE space I can't help to think that this person may not fully understand the potential issues at hand. VINYL FLOORING WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE in a mobile environment not to mention less weight and more durable.

You simply don't wave a wand and magically make this happen on this kind of scale without fully thinking out the possibilities.

Think about what happens when you attempt to fit a 35 ft trailer PLUS 25ft of vehicle into a residential street. The size and length may even limit the potential clientele. Or find yourself BACKING the entire rig a few blocks to get it out of a tight place because there is not enough room to turn around.

OP NEEDS to here some FEEDBACK EVEN IF YOU (or the OP) don't "feel" it is needed.

Wells Cargo will custom build also. When I bought one some years back, I picked it up at the factory, and while there I took a tour of the shop. they were in process of building a very nice trailer for a guy that sold small antique items on the road. Lots of very nice custom cabinetry, etc.

Making a trailer haul the weight isn't that hard. Hauling 1,000-1,500 gallons is easy. Getting the water to stay in the spa is another story. Also, moving liquids without baffles is also dangerous. That is what makes hauling Milk more difficult than hauling Gasoline. A milk trailer doesn't have baffles because of sanitation requirements. Never drive near one, especially in front of one.

Gdetrailer wrote:
Not to rain on your parade but have you thought about how HEAVY your mobile spa might weigh?

How much water are you planning to use/haul (IE, fresh/grey/black for toilet)?

Water weighs in about 8.8 lbs per gallon... 100 gallons will weigh in at 880 lbs alone!

Real hardwood floors are heavy, not gonna like the moisture inside your mobile spa and most likely will buckle over time not to mention will require substantial sub floor to nail them too.

Have to heat the water, typical RV water heaters are 6-10 gallon and will use quite a lot of propane.

Electrical, with all the possible high energy devices you might end up needing might need a 50A 120/240 shore power connection (this will become an issue if you are traveling to a clients home since they most likely WILL NOT have this connection. Most likely you would be limited to 15A/20A 120V connection at a clients home.

Otherwise you will need a huge generator (7Kw-10Kw) which is going to eat ALL of your "profits" in fuel not to mention take a huge chunk out of your budget to buy and install.

A/C units, most likely in such a large trailer you will need at least THREE 15K BTU A/C units (would REQUIRE 50A 120/240 shore power).

You are going to be looking a a SUBSTANTIAL "investment" cost and may end up a total impractical idea.

Then there is an issue of proper placement/layout of ALL of your equipment, there is weight associated with equipment and you MUST place it so it doesn't overload axles or prevent the hitch from having the proper weight (Tongue weight MUST be 10%-15% of the overall trailer weight with 12%-15% being ideal).

Too light of tongue weight and the trailer WILL SWAY which WILL cause you to lose control even at low speeds..

Simply put, this trailer will be heavy, no doubt about it I would be doubtful you are going to get away with using any small tow vehicles.

I would recommend you research and add up ALL the weight of your proposed items including the hardwood floors (walls, shower, spa equipment, water, propane, gen and so on) BEFORE even having a trailer built...

or you can just discuss it with a custom builder like in your opening post...geeezzz

Not to rain on your parade but have you thought about how HEAVY your mobile spa might weigh?

How much water are you planning to use/haul (IE, fresh/grey/black for toilet)?

Water weighs in about 8.8 lbs per gallon... 100 gallons will weigh in at 880 lbs alone!

Real hardwood floors are heavy, not gonna like the moisture inside your mobile spa and most likely will buckle over time not to mention will require substantial sub floor to nail them too.

Have to heat the water, typical RV water heaters are 6-10 gallon and will use quite a lot of propane.

Electrical, with all the possible high energy devices you might end up needing might need a 50A 120/240 shore power connection (this will become an issue if you are traveling to a clients home since they most likely WILL NOT have this connection. Most likely you would be limited to 15A/20A 120V connection at a clients home.

Otherwise you will need a huge generator (7Kw-10Kw) which is going to eat ALL of your "profits" in fuel not to mention take a huge chunk out of your budget to buy and install.

A/C units, most likely in such a large trailer you will need at least THREE 15K BTU A/C units (would REQUIRE 50A 120/240 shore power).

You are going to be looking a a SUBSTANTIAL "investment" cost and may end up a total impractical idea.

Then there is an issue of proper placement/layout of ALL of your equipment, there is weight associated with equipment and you MUST place it so it doesn't overload axles or prevent the hitch from having the proper weight (Tongue weight MUST be 10%-15% of the overall trailer weight with 12%-15% being ideal).

Too light of tongue weight and the trailer WILL SWAY which WILL cause you to lose control even at low speeds..

Simply put, this trailer will be heavy, no doubt about it I would be doubtful you are going to get away with using any small tow vehicles.

I would recommend you research and add up ALL the weight of your proposed items including the hardwood floors (walls, shower, spa equipment, water, propane, gen and so on) BEFORE even having a trailer built...

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